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Friday, May 30, 2003 - 7:03amSanction this postReply
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Thank you for your article Adam.
I have to agree with your concerns. Although, despite the ending of Contact being so obviously contrived and contradictory, I still think that a large part of Sagan's message came across in the film.

Hopefully, the same will come to pass with Atlas, although I think the project is doomed from the start.

For one thing, it is a work of such magnitude that it simply cannot be compressed into one movie. If it is to work at all, the movie would need to be constructed in three parts. Like The Lord of the Rings, the book of which is much the same length as Atlas.

Secondly, Hart had the collaboration of both Sagan and his wife, Ann Druyan, to aid him in his adaption which would have added to the impact of his script. He won't have the luxury of author in-put this time around, although to give him the benefit of the doubt, Peter Jackson didn't have Tolkein to consult with and he did just fine. (And there certainly was a great deal of doubt that he could pull it off!)

It is no doubt going to be a monumental task to turn Atlas into a film. If the project does ever get off the ground, considering the subtleties of the book, any false representation will, like Contact, stick out like a red flag.



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Friday, May 30, 2003 - 8:33amSanction this postReply
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If Atlas is going to succeed as film, it will have to be made by an independent film maker. I highly doubt the general audience is ready for Dagny. Contact is one of my favorite movies, and I too was disappointed with the faith factor at the end. Jody Foster's character, as close to Dagny as you can get, ends up giving God some serious consideration. I think those involved with the making of that film felt it was necessary to add faith for it to "sell" to the public.

As for Lord of The Rings, either Jackson had the integrity to stick to the true spirit of the book, or it was understood that the main audience...who buy the books, related games and collectibles, would be alienated. They certainly would not care to come to any sequels and spend more cash.

I just don't think the Objectivist/Rational Self-Interest audience is nearly as lucrative to Hollywood as the now fashionable Comic/SciFi/Fantasy audience. If Hollywood does Atlas, it will be mangled. Faith sells, selfish don't.

Great article!



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Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 6:49amSanction this postReply
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Adam,

The message I took from your article is that a fundamentalist Christian businessman is willing to bankroll the production of Atlas Shrugged, a novel that apparently espouses the antithesis of all Christian values.

You have overlooked the obvious question: why would a Christian capitalist be prepared to fund a movie that seems to contradict his most cherished values?

Is the problem his understanding of Christianity, or his understanding of capitalism? Or has he entirely misunderstood the theme of Atlas Shrugged? Or is he amoral, or perhaps immoral?

Ten marks for research; zero for analysis. Your article has achieved the singular effect of drawing the readers’ attention to the fact that Ayn Rand can be interpreted in many different ways.

You are doing the “enemy’s” work for them. Congratulations.

Brendan



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Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 9:58amSanction this postReply
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Great article. And I am really disapointed. I hope that the movie will be outstanding, and I hope that Ayn Rand's message won't be too skewed.

Anschutz - as you show - has been seen to be not the most moral character. Could the movie somehow be an attempt to justify his actions regarding Qwest? And are his actions he is trying to justify really in accordance with Objectivism? Not so much.

It sucks, but I bet the best we as Objectivists can hope for is that the movie will help more people hear about Ayn Rand. That, despite the fact that these people with a new awareness of her may have a skewed sense of her ideas, may generate more ligitmate interest in her ideas later. Well, here's to hope.



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Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:42amSanction this postReply
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Gee, Brendan, a zero for analysis? I do recall writing: "It could be that Anschutz, like Charles Keating before him, was stung by the exposure of his pull-peddling swindles, and was buying himself a newly moral image among both Christians and Libertarians." In America this is a persistent phenomenon - see "BESIEGED CEO'S TURN TO PUBLIC PIETY, RELIGIOSITY FOR REDEMPTION" .

You can justifiably fault me for forgetting to explain, to the young and to the non-American, who Charles H. Keating was. In the words of the article cited above: "It is all reminiscent of Charles Keating, a tycoon caught up in the midst of the old savings and loan (S&L) scandal, who poured millions of dollars into anti-pornography groups including his Citizens for Decency Through Law. While pointing the accusing finger at porn peddlers, though, Keating companies like Lincoln Savings & Loan and American Continental Corporation were busy bilking investors -- many of them elderly -- out of their last dollars... (Keating used his political pull so that) taxpayers covered the losses to the tune of $3.4 billion dollars. Keating was convicted in federal and state courts of numerous counts, and served five years of a twelve-and-a-half year sentence."

Keating's pull-peddling swindles, like the more recent ones carried out by Anschutz, depended on presenting a personal image as a paradigm of Christian morality. Keating served on the Presidential Commission on Obscenity and Pornography in 1970 - a political swindle in his usual style, aimed at instituting wide-ranging "moral" censorship of expression in the United States.

Charles Keating's "moral image building" included contributing to and publicizing Mother Theresa, a "model of Christian virtue" whose innovations included making thousands of sick people, first in India and then all over the world, depend on her institutions for medical care. This medical care, including terminal care for expiring AIDS patients, was provided - to effectively confined patients - without anaesthetics. Mother Theresa believed that "suffering is a gift from God, who gives it to the sick to lead them in imitation of Christ," and that therefore it would be contrary to Christian morality and virtue to reduce this "gift." Mother Theresa returned Charles Keating's favor by writing letters on his behalf to judges sentencing him for his swindles, vouching for his high moral character. "She even wrote to the judge in the Keating case, (Judge Lance Ito, before his O.J. Simpson trial fame) pleading for the defendant, on the basis of his financial generosity to her Order. The book "The Missionary Position", by Christopher Hitchens, includes several documents, not only including this letter, but also a letter to her by Keating prosecutor Paul Turley, asking her to return the money, and follow the character of Christ, who would never have kept the fruits of a crime. The nun apparently never replied or responded to this request, and the money was never returned."

Which brings me to Anschutz's own Mother Theresa connection. One of Anschutz's moral image burnishing exercises is his "Foundation for a Better Life", which has been putting up "moral" images of supposed Christian virtues on about 10,000 billboards, signs and posters nationwide, includes a billboard of Mother Theresa as the exemplar of the virtue(?) of selfless service.

Why "Atlas Shrugged?" My guess is that Anschutz has been reading the polls, and noticed the rise in the number of Americans who do not identify with any religion from about 10% of the population to about 20% over the last decade. So this is his way of marketing himself as a "moral" man, and Christianity as a "moral" faith, to "convertible" infidels, libertarians, and even, obscenely, "Objectivists."



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Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:08pmSanction this postReply
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Gee, Brendan, a zero for analysis? I do recall writing: "It could be that Anschutz, like Charles Keating before him, was stung by the exposure of his pull-peddling swindles, and was buying himself a newly moral image among both Christians and Libertarians." In America this is a persistent phenomenon - see "BESIEGED CEO'S TURN TO PUBLIC PIETY, RELIGIOSITY FOR REDEMPTION" .

You can justifiably fault me for forgetting to explain, to the young and to the non-American, who Charles H. Keating was. In the words of the article cited above: "It is all reminiscent of Charles Keating, a tycoon caught up in the midst of the old savings and loan (S&L) scandal, who poured millions of dollars into anti-pornography groups including his Citizens for Decency Through Law. While pointing the accusing finger at porn peddlers, though, Keating companies like Lincoln Savings & Loan and American Continental Corporation were busy bilking investors -- many of them elderly -- out of their last dollars... (Keating used his political pull so that) taxpayers covered the losses to the tune of $3.4 billion dollars. Keating was convicted in federal and state courts of numerous counts, and served five years of a twelve-and-a-half year sentence."

Keating's pull-peddling swindles, like the more recent ones carried out by Anschutz, depended on presenting a personal image as a paradigm of Christian morality. Keating served on the Presidential Commission on Obscenity and Pornography in 1970 - a political swindle in his usual style, aimed at instituting wide-ranging "moral" censorship of expression in the United States.

Charles Keating's "moral image building" included contributing to and publicizing Mother Theresa, a "model of Christian virtue" whose innovations included making thousands of sick people, first in India and then all over the world, depend on her institutions for medical care. This medical care, including terminal care for expiring AIDS patients, was provided - to effectively confined patients - without anaesthetics. Mother Theresa believed that "suffering is a gift from God, who gives it to the sick to lead them in imitation of Christ," and that therefore it would be contrary to Christian morality and virtue to reduce this "gift." Mother Theresa returned Charles Keating's favor by writing letters on his behalf to judges sentencing him for his swindles, vouching for his high moral character. "She even wrote to the judge in the Keating case, (Judge Lance Ito, before his O.J. Simpson trial fame) pleading for the defendant, on the basis of his financial generosity to her Order. The book "The Missionary Position", by Christopher Hitchens, includes several documents, not only including this letter, but also a letter to her by Keating prosecutor Paul Turley, asking her to return the money, and follow the character of Christ, who would never have kept the fruits of a crime. The nun apparently never replied or responded to this request, and the money was never returned."

Which brings me to Anschutz's own Mother Theresa connection. One of Anschutz's moral image burnishing exercises is his "Foundation for a Better Life", which has been putting up "moral" images of supposed Christian virtues on about 10,000 billboards, signs and posters nationwide, includes a billboard of Mother Theresa as the exemplar of the virtue(?) of selfless service.

Why "Atlas Shrugged?" My guess is that Anschutz has been reading the polls, and noticed the rise in the number of Americans who do not identify with any religion from about 10% of the population to about 20% over the last decade. So this is his way of marketing himself as a "moral" man, and Christianity as a "moral" faith, to "convertible" infidels, libertarians, and even, obscenely, "Objectivists."



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Sunday, June 1, 2003 - 3:08pmSanction this postReply
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mr. reed,

thank you for your additional information pertaining to your article. i sort of felt the same about the lack of analysis.

i personally don't think atlas is a project that should ever be taken to screen. the sheer amount of non-dialogue in the book would make getting ayn's message across to your average joe so difficult that most people -would- walk away with the wrong message.

if anything, i agree some sort of independant director may be the best possible idea. i was also toying around with the idea of the move being entirely cgi, which to me seems a lovely homage to the book.

oh well, too many random threads in my head right now. thanks for the interesting read.



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Monday, June 2, 2003 - 9:44amSanction this postReply
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Adam,

What you seem to be saying is that a corrupt Christian businessman has chosen to produce Atlas Shrugged as a vehicle for his personal salvation. This seems to be a very odd choice, given the persistent anti-theistic tone of the novel.

As for wanting to appeal to a minority audience via good works, well, perhaps, but these sorts of projects are usually predicated on attracting the widest possible audience.

Maybe the real explanation is the simplest: Anschutz just thinks he is making a promising business decision.

Brendan



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Tuesday, June 3, 2003 - 8:17amSanction this postReply
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The first step to destroying a less-well-known (yet true) idea is to absorb it, twist it, and mis-represent it on a massive scale, powered by a media budget that can outspend at least 10-1, as against the true proponents of the idea.

It was done in the Commuist East as government policy. Now, it may be done in private industry to the very ideas which, if this culture is to survive and thrive, must peresist and spread undiluted. Dangerous, indeed.

I enjoyed Contact, as I generally enjoy Jodie Foster's work. But the 'faith/theology wins in the end' final act of the movie sincerely pissed me off.

There is no more efficient way to destroy an idea (or intellectual movement) than what MAY be going on here. Nice work, Adam.



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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 8:28amSanction this postReply
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Adam, your older post just popped up again on the home page as an archived article.

For anyone concerned that Crusader Entertainment (and its spinoffs/successors) might be too "Christian" to do a decent rendition of Atlas, perhaps the fact that they produced the very earthy film "Ray" this past year will give you some hope.





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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 9:10amSanction this postReply
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Robert,

"Ray" is "earthy" only in the sense of adhering very closely to the Christian notion of Original Sin, depicting even the most positive characters - such as Ray Charles in this film - as unavoidably tainted or worse. I don't see how this kind of treatment can do anything good for Atlas.



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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 10:04amSanction this postReply
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Adam, I simply meant that Crusader wasn't "goody two-shoes" in its willingness to use strong language or convey sexual material. Given the project's sympathetic view of Atlas, I'm encouraged that it won't shy from controversy. I'm also encouraged by advance word about the script from People Who Know. Though it will never satisfy all the soaring hopes and expectations of fans, there is a lot less reason to expect that it will do violence to the book than the previous script written for the (thankfully) abortive production by Al Ruddy.




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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:42pmSanction this postReply
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Adam, there was nothing in "Ray" that had anything to do with "Original Sin." It was a biography of an actual man (or rather, genius) with actual conflicts, who was quite candid about them and approved the final cut of the film. It didn't "depict" him as "unavoidably" tainted -- he was tainted.

More to the point, it was a great film. And it was also a case of Anschutz hiring and trusting a non-religious, "old-fashioned liberal" director, based on the fact that they shared very important values regarding the music of Ray Charles. If the same occurs for the production of Atlas, we should all be happy.

Alec 




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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:58pmSanction this postReply
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Alec, all very well put, and I agree entirely. "Ray" was a fine film, and I saw zero evidence of any religious "spin" or influence in the production.




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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 2:22pmSanction this postReply
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I havn't heard much about the Atlas Shrugged movie project for quite some time now. Does anyone have recent information on its progress?



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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 6:09pmSanction this postReply
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Okay, Adam. You got my attention with this one. I think it is scary.



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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 11:35pmSanction this postReply
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Let me add, FYI, that the film actually downplayed Ray's flaws, far from elevating them beyond mutability. It ends with his kicking the heroin and remaining with his wife. In real life, he replaced the "buzz" with large amounts of nightly (never daily) gin and reefer, the former of which eventually caused his failed liver. And, unvirtuous or not, he divorced his wife and continued his rampant womanizing.

So, the treatment of Ray Charles in this film was, if anything in particular, romantic.

Alec




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