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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 5:53amSanction this postReply
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There's a "Breadmaker" poem???  I want it!!  Whoever tried to post it, please send it to me!  :)



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:27amSanction this postReply
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Lindsay, Ouch! I thought for sure my poems were if not Shakespeare at least Keats caliber. Kidding.
I have to say that the poetry sounds like me, so I wanted to apologize, I posted those prior to knowing how everything worked in here. I was, and still am, learning.

But the "decoding 'The Birds." whoever wrote that I would like to read that one as well. if you post it let us know.


Thanks,
JML



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:46amSanction this postReply
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Jennifer, if I am correct about mine being the "Breadmaker" poem then I have posted it. It is called "There You Stand"
and Lindsay you will be proud it rhymes! It is in Rondeau Form which is "a. a. b. b. a.....a. a. b. R. ..... a. a. b. b. a. R. " for any one that cares.

Thanks, JML



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 1:49pmSanction this postReply
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Jeffrey, I'm not understanding what your poem has to do with bread...



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 2:18pmSanction this postReply
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C'mon Jen, man can not live on bread alone...



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 3:14pmSanction this postReply
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Msr. Perigo
 
Oh dear... forgive me if I have been submitting my few pieces incorrectly, via email; I didn't realize there was a "contribute content" page... and I've been reading SOLO on and off for years.
 
That said, I am going to resubmit some of my own poetry, this time by the proper venues.   I admit this courtesan might nettle the malevolent universe sense of some Objectivists (though my sense of life is Byronic, not malevolent, in Randian terms), but I *do* know how to write.  Actually, although I do use free verse on occasion, you might find it refreshing that this headbanging caterwauler started a writers' group in college... and was always laughed at for rhyming and scanning and fretting about my overuse of iambs and such.  I am such a romantic reactionary when it comes to poetry.
 
I do hope you will publish some of my work... if it will make you comfortable, I waive permissions to place 'philosophically disreputable' hazard labels upon it if you wish...
        ... I'll even provide graphics!
 
Good Premises!
 
Jeanine Ring 
stand forth!

(Edited by Jeanine Ring on 10/22, 3:56pm)




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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 3:17pmSanction this postReply
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Jeanine,

When you copy and paste images from your personal computer, we can't see them.  It only includes it as a link, and since your pictures are not online, they just show up as blank pictures to everyone else.




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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 4:12pmSanction this postReply
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Does this work better?  
 
My apologies, but I went a number of years without internet access, and apologize for foolish mistakes.
 
Jeanine Ring  




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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 4:17pmSanction this postReply
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I see Jeanine's graphics.

BTW, let me take this opportunity to say that I generally don't read her posts since she insists on using a too small font size.



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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 4:18pmSanction this postReply
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That works.  And it wasn't a foolish mistake.  It's a subtle feature of Internet Explorer not used very often.




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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 4:19pmSanction this postReply
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Rick,

I second that. As an old one with bad eyes, I have also skipped many of her post for the same reason.

George




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Friday, October 22, 2004 - 6:15pmSanction this postReply
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Ooooops! Time I was euthanased, I think. Here was I thinking we had a dedicated poetry gallery. We don't. Anything submitted as a poem - one's own or someone's more famous - will end up in the Article Queue. Clearly we need to set up a gallery that "Add poem" leads to, where folk can post Keats & all the rest (at least I *hope* that's whom they post!). This means I'll have to be ultra-nice to Joe. I'll go practice! Meanwhile, sorry about the confusion. Be gentle with me ... it's hard, being terminally bewildered.

Loopy Linz



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Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 8:12pmSanction this postReply
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I always understood "objectivist" arguments as those with logic-based premises which can be understood by all, and which can not be contested by a relativist viewpoint.  This is in contrast to subjectivist arguments, which are in the form of "for mex is (or is not) true."  I offered an article I wrote, which by any reasonable definition can be understood as an objective argument for the existence of a Prime Mover.
 
Did so-called "Objectivists" just arbitrarily pick that name to call themselves, or is it just that the "Objectivists" of today, much like the two major American political parties, have little, if anything, in common with their roots?  My offering was very much within the realm of objectivist thought and it seems that it has been effectively dismissed because it doesn't "fit in" with the majority of "objectivist" positions.
 
I'll put my article on the discussion boards, and whether or not I make an objective argument can be determined by the masses.  If I do not, I stand corrected.  But it's certainly not an article of any other sort, as far as I can tell.




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Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:55amSanction this postReply
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Jake - the antidote to "subjectivist" is *not* "intrinsicist," or any kind of logic divorced from reality. That's just the other side of the same corrupt coin. There are *no* objective arguments for a Prime Mover, since objective arguments must ultimately reduce to referents in reality. But you are at perfect liberty to post your essay on the Dissent board or as a new General Forum thread.

Linz



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Friday, October 29, 2004 - 11:48amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for the response.  One more question, though:
 
Is there an objectivist argument for the non-existence of some Prime Mover?




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Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:58pmSanction this postReply
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Nope. The onus of proof is on the positer.

Linz



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Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:40pmSanction this postReply
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hahaha



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Friday, October 29, 2004 - 7:49pmSanction this postReply
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"Linz"

Prove it!




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Monday, August 8, 2005 - 10:10pmSanction this postReply
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Linz is quite a fine writer.

--Brant




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