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Post 20

Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:39pmSanction this postReply
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Doc, you mean ... if I were only to buy your book ... then my present troubles would go away?




Post 21

Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:44pmSanction this postReply
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Doc,

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Remember when Socrates proposes his second way, a way of LOGOS, but warns Simmias and Cebes that he does not mean by LOGOS “images” but rather “imageless thought.”
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Well ... yeah ... sure ... I remember that [looking away, bobs head in over-confidence].



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Aristotle rejects this in the De Anima. All thought requires images. At De Anima 432a10 he writes, “even when we think speculatively, we must have some mental image [PHANTASMA] of what we think.”
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Now hold on one cotton-pickin' minute! In De Anima 430a, Aristotle had just written THIS ...

Thought, as we have so far described it, is what it is by virtue of becoming all things, while there is another which is what it is by virtue of making all things: this is a sort of positive state like light; for in a sense light makes potential colours into actual colors.

Thought in this latter sense is separable, impassible, unmixed, since it is in its essential nature activity.
In other words, consciousness is active awareness, not passive imagery.

Hmph!

Ed




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Monday, May 22, 2006 - 12:24pmSanction this postReply
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Ed,

I was teaching Plato's PHAEDO this morning and you were on my mind.

Fred



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Post 23

Monday, May 22, 2006 - 12:34pmSanction this postReply
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Fred,
Wasn't that a 60's song by We Five?




Post 24

Monday, May 22, 2006 - 2:39pmSanction this postReply
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[accappello]
"At first I was afraid ... I was petrified ... the thought of living without you by my side ... I was teaching Plato's PHAEDO this morning ... and you were on my mind."

Fred Seddon and the 5 Seddonites

Ed
[good one, Glenn!]




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Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 10:45amSanction this postReply
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Glenn,

Don't know the group you mentioned but when I wrote to post I was thinking of Ray Charles' '"Georgia on my mind." Perhaps because I just spent a few days in Georgia.

Fred



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Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 11:20amSanction this postReply
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Fred,
     I figured Ed was too young, but I thought for sure you would recognize the reference to "You Were On My Mind", by We Five. Here is a link to hear a snippet.  Just scroll down to the title and choose your favorite player.
Glenn

(Edited by Glenn Fletcher on 5/23, 11:21am)

(Edited by Glenn Fletcher on 5/23, 11:23am)




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Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:01amSanction this postReply
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Glenn,

Never heard of them. Never heard the song. From about 63-69 I was exploring Classical music almost exclusively until a Pittsburgh Objectivist who was a music major at Duquesne University turned me on the Beatles.

Fred



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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 6:27amSanction this postReply
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Fred,
Oh, what a shame.  You missed out on all the anti-war, love, and peace stuff.  But, it's not too late; there are always the "oldies" stations!
Glenn




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Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:04amSanction this postReply
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Glenn,
Yeah, I had to get a lot of that stuff after the fact. In addition to the Beatles, my son, Beethoven, turned me on to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd, and a professor friend of mine got me into Frank Zappa. Life goes on.

Fred



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