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Monday, June 5, 2006 - 6:50amSanction this postReply
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Unlike Aristotle’s views that friendships, and the development of relationships is a crucial aspect to achieve happiness, she views the pathway to happiness as extremely individualistic. Friendships and love only exist to benefit the “well-being” of the person. No good exists in a relationship alone; one is unable to be genuinely happy to be a communion with another individual, he or she must only focus on the benefit that is received.

Aristotle was valid in believing that a relationship is a vital part of man’s existence and one retains a greater benefit in helping others, even if that does entail sacrifice. A fair amount of an individual’s happiness depends on the overall happiness of others.
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But she viewed 2 things as most important to happiness -- your work and your LOVE (your romantic interest). Now, romantic partners aren't exactly the same thing as friends -- but they are a relationship to others that the quote above ignores (and has to ignore, in order to retain validity).

Sure, no good exists in a relationship alone -- this is because good is not a property (it's a relation, itself -- everything is only good TO someone, and FOR some purpose). The only objective good, is instrumental good.

And sacrifices (where a higher value was given up for a lower one) don't lead to happiness, but away from it. The apparent sacrifices of right-minded folks are investments. Some folks are worth our personal investment -- because of their built character or potential. Imagine a being without potential. One where any energy you spent on them -- would be lost. There would be no happiness in a continual waste of energy on the being without potential -- and that's because your time is valuable.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 - 8:06amSanction this postReply
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Once again, you can see the two worldviews being expressed - the investment notion is a trader syndrome view of acting, a sum plus, while the other depends on a zero-sum view, where the other's gain is your loss.......



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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 12:30pmSanction this postReply
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After finishing her final novel, Atlas Shrugged, she was offered a position, by Nathaniel Branden, to compose a periodic series of lectures on the basic principles of Objectivism, the philosophy that Rand developed in her novels.
Huh??? I almost couldn't read any more after seeing such an egregious re-write of history.



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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 3:25pmSanction this postReply
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Yes - I had to laugh at that... but, oddly, am not surprised...

As Holmes said - they see but do not observe.... here, one sees what is wanted to be seen, an not observe what is....

(Edited by robert malcom on 6/06, 3:27pm)




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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 11:35amSanction this postReply
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Overall that was a fair-minded review of two great philosophers. I don’t agree with it exactly in part because I disagree with many of the standard interpretations of Rand and Aristotle. But your essay was a good description, close to the standard interpretations, that can serve as an opening to a fruitful discussion.

Perhaps I sometimes read too much Aristotle into my Rand. Because of that I see far fewer differences; indeed, I think Aristotle’s extensive description complements Rand’s essentialist definitions. I hope to come back and explain what I mean but, for now, I thought I drop a note of appreciation and encouragement.




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