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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 5:09amSanction this postReply
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Excellent article, Joe!  I especially liked this part:

One new development on the forum is a new "dissenter" category for those people who disagree with Objectivism, but still want to debate.  I consider this new tool a powerful success.  Many of the dissenters left after they no longer had the opportunity to attention-seek on every thread.  This had the added benefit that much of the incivility was localized to a particular part of the site, leaving the rest a kind of haven for those seeking spiritual refreshment.  It also leaves the opportunity for those really interested in debating with outsiders the opportunity without disrupting other people's enjoyment.  It allows for the best of all worlds.

I sang the "Hallelujah Chorus" when this happened and consider it one of the best single executive decisions ever.




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 5:30amSanction this postReply
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Great, Joe. Congratulations!



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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 5:46amSanction this postReply
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Thank you Joe for all of your great work!!!

I am proud to have the chance to participate on your fine web site.

Ed



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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 8:09amSanction this postReply
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Joe -- Congratulations on the first anniversary of Rebirth of Reason! You indeed have much of which you can be proud:

 

1)  You have created a benevolent online community, in contrast to the website's previous incarnation. You and most folks who post practice the benevolence we should preach.

 

2)  As a result of your wise management -- creating a "Dissent" forum, managing trolls -- the site is now characterized mostly by interesting and high-quality material and discussions with little of the name-calling, malicious material now banished to other online locations. Even when strong differences arise, the personal nastiness is kept to a minimum. Now the biggest "complaint" about the site is that there is so much good material that one cannot find the time to read it all.

 

3)  Objectivism-101 is indeed a valuable asset. I've referred people to it as a great source for a primer on Objectivism.

 

4)  Your own articulate way of communicating and explaining the philosophy is most welcomed and appreciated. Your Summer Seminar talk was indeed well received. Your examples made real what are too often abstract discussions of philosophy removed from the real world that philosophy should illuminate.

 

I thank you for the spirit of benevolence and cooperation you've shown and welcome opportunities in the future to work together on the goal we share in common: to develop and spread Objectivism, the philosophy developed by Ayn Rand!

 

 

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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 8:22amSanction this postReply
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Joe at the Summer Seminar 2006 giving his excellent talk:

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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 9:16amSanction this postReply
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Joe,
Congratulations and thanks for what you've done.
Ed,
I concur; Joe's talk was excellent.  One of the attendees, a person who is a life-long Objectivist and who has attended many Summer Seminars, said that Joe's talk was one of the most thought-provoking lectures she had heard in a long time.  High praise.
Thanks,
Glenn




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 11:16amSanction this postReply
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Congratulations, Joe. You've got a really good thing going here. Keep up the good work.

Camera-man for post #3 picture,

Ed




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 12:12pmSanction this postReply
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Joe,

I started reading this forum at precisely this time one year ago...(I actually never experienced the old SoloHQ forum.) I initially came across your November 27, 2005 announcement of the demise of SoloHQ (and the subsequent creation of RoR and SoloPassion) on another website, and I decided (for no particular reason) to check out RoR first...obviously, I never left. (I have visited SoloPassion a couple of times, out of curiosity, but I can't get enough of RoR.)

The community, and the spirit of the site, under your direction, is wonderful.
Based on everything I have been able to learn about the state of the old SoloHQ at the time of its ending, it seems to me that the title of this thread is certainly appropriate. You should be extremely proud of what you have accomplished here.

Ed Hudgins said,
Now the biggest "complaint" about the site is that there is so much good material that one cannot find the time to read it all. 
Amen to that!

Thanks, Joe, and congratulations.

Erica Schulz




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 12:51pmSanction this postReply
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A year already? I have thoroughly enjoyed the company of fellow rational logic & ethic enthusiasts all the while. This is a great achievement.

Thanks Joe, and participants.



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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 1:12pmSanction this postReply
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Happy Birthday, everyone! And thanks for the well wishes.

Luke, thanks for the support. Glad you like the new policy!

Tibor and Ed Younkins, thank you both. You two have done so much for this site with your constant supply of interesting articles and benevolent attitudes. Both of you are eternally vigilant in your defense of freedom. It's an honor to have you as part of this group.

And that goes for all of the authors. I can't tell you how much respect I have for those people who are willing to step up and contribute to our shared goals.

Ed Hudgins, thank you. You've been a great supporter and contributor, and I'm looking forward to future cooperation.

Glenn, you're welcome, and thank you.

Ed, nice camera work! And thanks for helping out with running the organization.

Erica, thank you! You've been a great addition to the site. I know most people don't know, but Erica has contributed financially to the site keeping it running for many months. I'm working on something to help bring attention to the many people who have made these anonymous donations, but I've been a little slow about it. Erica, thank you so much for your contributions.

I do want to make something clear. While it's technically my site and I've tried to push it in a more benevolent direction, it really is the contributors that do so much. It's all of you that make this site what it is. I could go on forever naming each person and highlighting their contributions, there's so many. But let me thank a one person specifically.

Bill Dwyer has really been an inspiration in terms of benevolence. He's so patient even when people come off as completely dishonest in debates with him. In fact, sometime he seems too polite! He's set a standard of benevolence that I think has really contributed to the atmosphere here. Thank you Bill!

And thanks to everyone else! You all deserve praise and recognition. In fact, I strongly encourage people to use this thread as a way to thank other contributors for the values they've added to this group.

Happy Birthday!




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 2:58pmSanction this postReply
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Here's to making year two even better!

Ethan




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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 3:24pmSanction this postReply
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My heartfelt congratulations for this achievement. May it grow always.

Michael



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Friday, December 1, 2006 - 4:26pmSanction this postReply
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Joe Rowlands, deserves a place in the history of objectivism.

Bravo!


D'Agostino Ciro




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Saturday, December 2, 2006 - 10:34amSanction this postReply
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My congratulations to Joe and Ethan and everyone who contributed in making Rebirth of Reason great. Keep up the good work! Frankly, I'm surprised it's only been one year. RoR seems very well established to me. I think there's a lot of quality on display here, especially in the remarkably large number of good articles published. No other Objectivist organization seems as ambitious and active. Relative to the competition, and objectively too, there's a lot to be proud of.  

But there seems to be one large point which everyone is missing. Benevolence, civility, and decency are not rare in the Objectivist Movement. Nor in the broader liberal movement (as I call it). In fact, it's the rule. Virtually every time I interact with normal Objectivists, libertarians, Austrians/Chicagoans, classical liberals, etc. I always seem to get along with them. This includes interaction in person, in discussion groups, and via email, whether in agreement or disagreement. I personally find politeness, respect, and benevolence almost everywhere.

There's only one exception. And everyone knows what it is. Objectivism and ARIanism simply don't mix. If someone secretly, but quite passionately, regards Objectivism as a type of religion, or a cult belief, then almost inevitably he behaves in a malicious and bizarre fashion -- and there's nothing anyone can do about it. If someone says "libertarianism is the perversion of liberty" or "David Kelley represents a rejection and repudiation of Objectivism in every aspect" or Nathaniel Branden and Barbara Branden are "enemies of Objectivism" as well as "personal exploiters of Rand," then there's very little hope for humane and benevolent interaction. The other party doesn't want this and simply won't allow it. Such claims as those above are so patently false, and evilly intended and motivated, as to preclude any benevolent discussion or interaction.

Oh, a handful of people might be nasty in the normal-Objectivist/libertarian/Austrian social universe -- just as in every other -- and a handful of discussions might turn hostile and unpleasant in certain circumstances. But generally, benevolence and civility reigns thruout the avant-garde liberal world. This includes difficult moments of passionate discussions about controversial issues. ARIans and cult-style Objectivists stand quite alone in their routine incivility and malevolence. 




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Saturday, December 2, 2006 - 12:05pmSanction this postReply
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To Joe, the Patrons, and all the Contributors,

Let me extend my heartfelt thanks for the existence of this site and the general quality of discourse displayed here.

I must especially point out my praise for the design of this forum, which even ignoring its content, is the best I have come across on the web.

Although this is Joe's "moment" from which I do not wish to detract, I would like to make an aside.

My contact with the wider Objectivist community has been in three major stages. The first was from 1984-1987 or so, when the Objectivist Forum folded. After discovering Rand and sending in that little card I briefly subscribed to the Objectivist Forum, which was the extent of my contact with any self-described Objectivists. I was never very impressed with the OF, but I did like Michael Newberry's paintings being offered there in an insert. I remember only two of the articles, one on Mary-Lou Retton, and the other on goal-directed action in biology. When it became possible for me to attend a lecture being given by the author of that article on a different subject at the University of Pennsylvania, I jumped at the chance. That event was quite an eye-opener. I was treated to smug self-referential preening, a mocking attitude toward anything and everything not deemed orthodox and vetted, and even a few gratuitously insulting personal comments. I did not drop Rand, but I did wash my hands of the "movement" at that point.

In the early 90's (1992, I believe) I was living in New York and found a flier for an open meeting of the NYU Objectivist club. When I walked in in a heavy-metal t-shirt and jeans, I remember thinking that I had obviously missed the memo on the dress code. The club as represented at that meeting consisted exclusively of male students almost uniformly dressed in white shirts, dark pants and dark ties. I remember thinking of the "Revenge of the Nerds" movies, (no offence to nerds) and cannot decide whether my remembrance that half the attendees were wearing pocket protectors was real or a later confabulation. Nonetheless, our association ended abruptly once I mentioned the fact that I lived with my boyfriend in the Bronx during the meet-and-greet part of the program.

My next extended participation with the Objectivist community began in 1997 when I found the Cornell discussion group run by Kirez Korgan on the internet. Boy, had things changed. There had been some more schisms, IOS was now an independent concern, which I was happy to see was lead by the author of the only major new post-Randian Objectivist work of which I was aware, Evidence of the Senses. I began my posting career by strongly disagreeing with the consensus denunciations of the recently deceased Princess Diana. I then faced some sympathy but a lot of aggressive questioning when I mentioned and defended my bisexuality on the forum.

Many of my arguments there were not only unorthodox, but unprecedented. I immediately found one very strong opponent in a gentleman by the name of Bill Dwyer who was consistently skeptical of my arguments, but in a very civil and principled way. I do not know whether Mr. Dwyer remembers this at all, or in the way that I do. But after several months of being initially on the opposite side of just about every issue, we came to have a quite cordial and apparently respectful relationship. I remember awaiting his moderated email posts eagerly, and we did correspond directly on a few occasions. After some time, I had set up my own website, which I am preparing to reprise (it will be content, and not forum oriented) and was getting interest from various quarters, including many people who post now on other websites for various reasons. Chris Sciabarra and I corresponded, and he brought me to Lindsay Perigo's attention. In more recent correspondence, Lindsay says that he does not remember this. Given the lapsing of my site and my absence from the on-line scene after 2001, this is not surprising.

Then, after some illness and a surgery this last year, and my acquisition of a new computer that did not crash on me daily, I again sought out on-line contact with other Objectivists. I first searched out Bob Bidinotto with whom I had had some pleasant interaction in the late 90's, and through his site came to find Rebirth of Reason. It was when I saw that Bill Dwyer was posting here that I knew I had found the place I was looking for.

I would like to thank Joe, and everyone else, for providing a forum where someone with my sometimes "bizarre" takes on matters can get not only an intelligently critical, but also, for the most part, generous and polite consideration. I find that I myself sometimes get a bit carried away by my emotions and resort to invective. I am happy to know that of all the violators of civility, it is usually I who am one of the worst offenders. In analogy to Rand, its better to be the least polite among very polite people, than to be the most polite among impolite people.

God bless the Rebirth of Benevolence!

Ted Keer, 02 December, 2006, NYC

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on 12/02, 1:27pm)




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Sunday, December 3, 2006 - 8:45pmSanction this postReply
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Ethan, thanks for all the hard work this year.  You've played such a pivotal role keeping the site going this last year.  Thank you so much!

MSK, thank you.

Ciro, is that a picture of you singing or speaking?  Thanks for your support.  Hopefully I can live up to your high praise.

Andre, thanks for the praise!  And as far as benevolence goes, it may be true that in person Objectivists and libertarians are friendly.  But my experience on forums is quite different.  Far too many people are looking to establish themselves as gurus with cult followers, win popularity contests, etc.  And even when it's not that bad, there's a tendency on forums to not exercise the manners people have in person.  As I noted, just look at the previous incarnation of this site for plenty of confirming data that benevolence can appear to be a lost virtue.

Ted, thanks for the well wishes.  I'm glad you like the site, and welcome your contributions.




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I'd like to hop aboard this train before it's too late, and thank the engineer (literally and figuratively) of this train, Joseph Rowlands, for creating a nexus for thinkers and like-minded folk to interact and bond. Congratulations on the success of this site, which I am proud to be a member of, and look forward to it further developing and flourishing.

I also have to hop aboard another train, to the destination of Bill Dwyer's flattered state. Allow me to be the third praiser of this admirable man who has expounded at great lengths, the hearts of Objectivism. By virtue of reading his contributions, I've learned more on various issues from him than I did from Dr. Peikoff. The man should be a ROR Hall of Famer, if there ever were one. At any rate, the man is clearly respected and I definitely feel it is well deserved. Thank you Bill Dwyer - and of course, all the members that make this site "happen" are no less deserving of the token of gratitude.

Happy Birthday, Rebirth of Reason. Here's to a good year before us all.




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Monday, December 4, 2006 - 6:41amSanction this postReply
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Congratulations on your success, and thanks, Joe!
 Far too many people are looking to establish themselves as gurus with cult followers, win popularity contests, etc.
That's so true!

(Oh, and count me as a Bill Dwyer fan as well!)




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Monday, December 4, 2006 - 6:46amSanction this postReply
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Congratulations on your success, and thanks, Joe!

Ditto.




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Monday, December 4, 2006 - 6:57amSanction this postReply
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Ciro, is that a picture of you singing or speaking?  Thanks for your support.  Hopefully I can live up to your high praise.

Joe, I was singing, it was at a friend's wedding.
But I also gave a little speech on love and family values.
I had to steal some of your ideas for the speech because there were some enemies at the wedding and I had to kick some asses. :-))
Ciro




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