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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 1:36pmSanction this postReply
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I liked it Dean - I even think if she expresses that attitude right up front, there will be business owners so astounded someone thinks like that they will hire her.  Some may not, but there should be some out there that will.



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 3:44pmSanction this postReply
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Poor girl...

I hope she can gather the strength in herself to be convincing.  Hard to do when you're not feeling very valuable yourself.

It was nice of you to offer this practical encouragement, Dean.  




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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:15pmSanction this postReply
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While I don't think a formal education is a requirement to be successful in life, I would encourage her to at least get her GED, and then maybe an associates or bachelor's degree after that.  The fact that she is pursuing that will be of some worth to her in the job hunting process.  An employer who would take a chance on someone as unqualified as her would probably want to see that she is on an overall track to personal improvement - not that she's just merely desperate for a job.  The fact is that an education does open doors for people. 



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:56pmSanction this postReply
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Pete if she's going for a bartending job (which is a great job and surprisingly pays well if you're in the right company) she absolutely does not need a college degree. Bartending school sounds like a great idea for her and is the best entry level job in the hospitality industry. A GED or high school diploma however does help. As a hospitality employer I would be concerned hiring someone who hasn't at least completed their GED.



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 6:18pmSanction this postReply
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John, I agree, provided that bartender is where she sees herself for the long term.  I guess I made the assumption that bartender was not a long term career choice.  I had no basis to make that assumption. 



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 6:30pmSanction this postReply
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Well, she said her passion was not particularly bar tending. She said that one day she'd like to be something kind of health industry technician.



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 6:52pmSanction this postReply
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Well, then a GED is probably a requirement if she wants to be in the healthcare area as such.  In fact, an associates degree is probably required.  So, a realistic plan would be:

1. Get the best job you can get for the time being, perhaps that's bartending or maybe some other job in the services industry 

2. Work on the GED at the same time, get that out of the completed

3.  Once the GED is in place, start working on an associates degree to work as a nurse's assistant

4. Land your first healthcare job, and you can always keep bartending on the weekends for extra cash




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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 8:35pmSanction this postReply
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I guess I made the assumption that bartender was not a long term career choice.


It generally isn't so you're not that off base with that assumption. It all depends on how far she would want to take a bartending career. I've worked with bartenders on the Vegas strip that pull in a 6 figure salary in a year. Most people who start off bartending and want to stick with a hospitality career usually eventually seek management level. I mean it depends on her aspirations, there are 5 star resorts that pay a good sum of money for a good F&B manager so if that is the career path she wants, it is a respectable career path and can be very rewarding.



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Monday, October 29, 2007 - 8:54pmSanction this postReply
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John, once again I agree.  And just to be clear, I do not believe a career in the food service industry is any way bad.  I simply thought that tending bar would be a difficult full time career path for a single mother over the long haul.       




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