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Monday, January 21 - 7:38pmSanction this postReply
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Not to be picky, but the first question of ethics is "How ought I to act?" The first question about ethics, what philosophers call a meta-ethical question, is "Why is there or need there be ethics?"



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Tuesday, January 22 - 1:46amSanction this postReply
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Joe,

 

I like the fact that you frame the question of man’s need for values in terms of the fundamental nature of human consciousness as volitional.  In her essay, “The Objectivist Ethics,” Ayn Rand moves immediately from the nature of value to the distinctive nature of human consciousness. It is only after establishing that context that she moves on to a discussion of reason as man’s basic tool of survival.  One of the glaring faults of Tara Smith’s so-called “scholarly” treatment of this topic (Ayn Rand’s Normative Ethics: The Virtuous Egoist) is that she almost skirts over that issue entirely.  I am amazed that her book has received such vast praise from Objectivist intellectuals in spite of her poor treatment of this critical step in validating Rand’s ethical system.

 

The second chapter of her book, entitled “Rational Egoism: A Profile of Its Foundations and Basic Character,” would have been unintelligible to me if I were not already familiar with the subject matter.  She spends pages talking about values and principles without even mentioning the issue of volitional consciousness.  She finally makes brief reference to this in the following chapter on the nature of reason, but does not clarify its vital importance.  After that, she rarely makes any reference at all to the crucial role that conscious effort plays in Rand’s ethical system.  She mentions free will and choice at various points, but her lack of emphasis seems to minimize their significance.  As I recall, this was equally true of Smith's prior work, Viable Values.  

 

Craig Biddle gives the issue of 'basic choice' primary importance in his discussion of "the morality of self-interest' in Loving Life.  Allan Gotthelf makes the issue of volition central to his discussion of man's life as the standard of value in On Ayn Rand.  In OPAR, Peikoff does not take up the issue of ethics at all until he has clearly spelled out the foundational importance of human volition.

 

I am puzzled as to why Tara Smith would get a pass on this.  I am sure her prestigious position as a University of Texas Philosophy Professor has nothing to do with it. 




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Wednesday, January 23 - 2:57amSanction this postReply
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It is not clear that life is always a supreme value. For a person suffering from unremitting and untreatable pain, death might be preferable.

Do you think suicide is necessarily immoral?

What about a parent who lays down his life to save his child? Is that immoral?

Bob Kolker




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Wednesday, January 23 - 10:41pmSanction this postReply
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Robert,

It is not clear that life is always a supreme value.
Though it is clear that life is the logical genesis for value; as values are always and only valuable to living things.

For a person suffering from unremitting and untreatable pain, death might be preferable.
Right, but this doesn't contradict the above -- about where values have got to come from (in order to be "valuable").
 What about a parent who lays down his life to save his child? Is that immoral?
I will touch that one -- but only with a 10-foot pole. Even so, I suspect that criticisms will come out of the woodwork on this one ...

The morality/immorality of an action must be judged via the standard of happy living. Happiness without life is a contradiction; and life without happiness would be unacceptable (to creatures, such as human beings, who universally know -- and inherently care -- about happiness).

Ed




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Thursday, January 24 - 3:43amSanction this postReply
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Mr. Ed writes

Though it is clear that life is the logical genesis for value; as values are always and only valuable to living things.

Bob responds:

For sure, Ed. Being alive and making a choice is the -means- by which an -end- is determined and reached. But the -end- might not be life. So life is not always an -end-.

Bob Kolker




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Thursday, January 24 - 8:28amSanction this postReply
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Robert ("Bobby J") Kolker retorts:

Being alive and making a choice is the -means- by which an -end- is determined and reached. But the -end- might not be life. So life is not always an -end-.
Mr. Ed whinnies back:

But happy life is always an end, and -- whenever one's convinced that that's become totally impossible -- then ending one's life becomes one's natural end.


Ed 




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