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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 5:54pm

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Michael, rather than continuing a hijacking of the moon thread, I will address your comments here. (It's that community courtesy thing.)

I don't want to take the time to link to my past 50 posts or so, but I assure you that you are very mistaken in that comment. I don't post on almost every thread here. (I do post on a lot though.)

If you will recall, Michael, my post was addressed to *both* of you. As in, the behavior of *both of you* is annoying.

And if I had to link to every post filled with drool, hairballs and purring, it would take up too much of my free time to be worth the effort. Yes, there are just that many.

Cuhple thayat with all the drawlin' and...ahem...er...umm...tail waggin', and it's just dayammed irritatin'.

When we do mention each other, our manner is playful and loving. I'm sorry that bothers you. Some around here enjoy it greatly and have told me so...What you implied in your nicely worded first post is insulting.

Therein lies your error. *Some* do, *MANY* do not. That my mailbox is flooded with thanks and Atlas statues, as I have mentioned, should make that clear, but the reality doesn't seem to penetrate. You’re in love. WE GET IT.

And if you interpreted my first post as an insult, well, the onus is on you for that.

We are just a little saddened something like this came from you of all people...

I still haven't figured out what this is supposed to imply. If you are suggesting that I have done the same with my personal relationship, rest assured that you will stand corrected. I have shared minimal information on the matter, and only at the behest of others.

Where on earth did I tell you to shove it? Did you hear sarcasm or what? I don't play put-down games or one-upmanship. If you have been attentive in reading my posts, you can see that.

Sorry, does that exclude the commentary about Shayne Wissler's neurosis? I based my inference on various comments I've seen from you elsewhere, so a clarification is welcome. If I am to extrapolate from your way of thinking, Michael, that you say it with a smile doesn't make it less of an insult. Or a "shove it," if you will.

(btw - There was no disrespect aimed at Marcus. I think you two are good people, despite all this.)

I thank you for your comments, but if by "despite all this" you mean I'm supposed to sit down, shut up, and not comment on the issue when both of you have thrown the door wide open on your personal lives, then consider me whatever kind of person you like.

Incidentally, you keep mentioning Marcus as if I am speaking for two people. I speak for me. Marcus has his own mind.

You have a nice day too, Colonel.

(Edited because I forgot to link to the source of this thread.)

(Edited by Jennifer Iannolo on 4/24, 8:42pm)

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 6:14pm

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Michael & Kathy: I like it how you strongly continue to write as you please. I wonder if your decision on what to write will be influenced by other's annoyance... Maybe you two could try to stay on topic in some areas, and then become more playful in less serious discussion.

Sometimes there is a good discussion mood going on, and then ahem *some* people interrupt and...

Jennifer: I wonder what thoughts Marcus might have had when you said "the sex is great." If I remember correctly, he never commented in public about it.

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 6:26pm

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It's like SEINFELD around here: "You're shmoopy...no, you're shmoopy!"

Blech! ;)

Joe

Obviously single right now...

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 6:33pm

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Actually, Dean, those were his words, not mine.

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 6:45pm

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Jennifer,

LOL

So you want to set up a new thread as the Emily Post of Solo? Go ahead and have fun. I sure am...

I was saddened that you are going on the attack as some kind of "spokeswoman" for this scolding crusade simply because of the respect I have for you, not because of what you implied I meant about your relationship.

Take a deep breath. Relax...

I am not your enemy.

My answer to your request is still no, though. And I sincerely am sorry you are annoyed about this, but I don't see what I can do about it other than change to your way of thinking and posting. And I will not do that.

I don't see any interest by you as to your initial insult, except to deny it and hurl more insults. So go on please yourself. Have a ball. I will not insult you back.

I want to take all this seriously, but it is just too funny... LOLOLOLOL

About Shayne, you are most cordially invited to post over there - where I stated very clearly what I mean. Nothing implicit there whatsoever.

(And if you keep on posting on this issue to garner sanction points from those few who agree with you, go ahead, I don't mind.)

Michael

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:18pm

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Hey, get a room, will ya! :-)

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:20pm

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Jennifer: Did Marcus type those words under your user? I checked, and the "Jennifer Iannolo" account posted those words. Since you two were right there when the words were posted, I now doubt there was a disagreement on whether they should have been posted. No big deal, I'm just not used to people being blunt on their personal lives in public : ).

Michael & Kathy: I sanctioned Jennifer's original post that commented on your behavior. I have been annoyed by some posts, and sometimes struggled to keep my mind on the topic I was thinking about. I would appreciate it if you did try to tone it down in certain circumstances.

Hmmm... maybe there is some part of my behavior you would like to comment on? If so, please go ahead and say it! : )

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:28pm

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Mr. Bob Palin: Funny picture. Looks like a Photoshop hack to me:
1. The red-white cat's arm is in the wrong position.
2. The cat fur on either animal's bodies does not hide any of their arm's.
3. The black cat is missing whiskers beyond its face.
4. The red-white cat has a shadow, the black cat is missing a shadow.

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:55pm

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Emily Post meets...hmm...

::::::tapping fingers::::::

Cruella de Ville? No, that was puppies. It will come to me.

Look, Michael, my intention is not to attack you or Kathy, or be a spokeswoman for anyone. Or to make happy little statues appear in my window. Or to try and dictate the behavior of others.

What I am doing can *absolutely* qualify as a rant, however, because I am choking on hairballs, and my favorite pair of Manolos is now covered in drool. A girl has limits. No, it is not typical of me to do things like this, but I find that my big mouth just refuses to be shut when I have something to say. Which, I think, you can clearly identify with. ;)

I know your behavior isn't going to change -- you have made that clear, and I accept and fully respect your decision to do as you please.

I have said my peace, but wanted to get *all* of it out. And now I'm done. Since there was irritation expressed on the Moon thread for diverting the topic, I thought it most civil to create my own little ranting corner.

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 8:06pm

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Dean, yes, he did post it under my name in our Christmas announcement. And yes, it made me cringe.

However, if you think Michael is a tough sell, try Marcus in an argument. ;) That he stands his ground and speaks his mind is one of the things I respect most about him. Which is why I *also* have to respect Michael's intention to do as he pleases, no matter how much I would like to stuff his mouth with a big honking leg of Southern...ahem...er...Fried Dayamm! Chicken.

Perhaps I need to write a book of etiquette for Objectivists. Something tells me I would get a great number of letters saying:

Madame,

I wish to request, with sincerest regards, that you kindly go fuck yourself.

Respectfully,

Your Gentle Reader

P.S. Bob, thank you for a much needed laugh. :)

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 8:08pm

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If you're a Colonel of decorum, then, as such, you'd keep the lovemaking a lot less like a ho-gathering on the streetcorners..... does that make it clear enough? I, too, find it rather on the 'low-life' side of human behavior - too much like those of my neighbors down the street...... and rest assured, love my lovey-doveyness as much as the next person - just prefer to be adult about it, not as a teenager....

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 9:04pm

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To the Dawgs of Soloh

I wiyall noh longah stand foh this poppehcock! Look at the dastardly malfeasance yew canine cowahds ahre perpetratin on the Intehnet:

How To Clean Your Toilet

1. Put both lids of the toilet up and add 1/8 cup of pet shampoo to the water in the bowl.

2. Pick up the cat and soothe her while you carry her towards the bathroom.

3. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids. You may need to stand on the lid.

4. The cat will self agitate and make ample suds. Never mind the noises that come from the toilet, the cat is actually enjoying this.

5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a "power-wash" and rinse."

6. Have someone open the front door of your home. Be sure that there are no people between the bathroom and the front door.

7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.

8. The cat will rocket out of the toilet, streak through the bathroom, and run outside where she will dry herself off.

9. Both the commode and the cat will be sparkling clean.

Sincerely,
The Dogs of Solo

Ah love mah Kitten bodeh and soul. And ah will tolerate no foolishness from anah flee-bitten bone-eating gourmets.

Colonel Michael Stuart

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 9:08pm

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Very clean and fluffy kitty jumps on Colonel's lap, rubbing up and purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 9:13pm

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Theah now Kitten. Yew stay right heah.

This is yoah home now. And I will treat anah varmit whe dares to defame yoah honah with a taste of Southehn Justice at midnight.

Colonel Michael Stuart

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Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 9:20pm

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And ah will tolerate no foolishness from anah flee-bitten bone-eating gourmets.

Sadly, I cannot take the credit for that fabulous cleaning recipe, but bravo to its creator. I've heard that kitties also make wonderful dust mops.

Flea-bitten? No. Bone-eating? Most definitely. One must suck the marrow of life, after all.

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Monday, April 25, 2005 - 6:57am

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Jennifer thanks for kicking this little "intervention" off.

Affectations annoy me. Pretending to be an animal or another gender or a colonel is funny maybe....twice? I can't understand why someone would want to build a persona *beyond* that for themselves. What are they hiding? Who are they really? Why the mask?

We used to have a man/woman around here who affected a french "accent" in her posts and signatures. She called himself/herself a "courtesan" and posted stuff that made Tolstoy look like a minimalist. She was truly annoying. Eventually people got sick of it and said something. She took offence and left. I was sorry to see her go. She was intelligent, and had a unique perspective. But this was lost completely, because of all the game and role playing.

That is the crux. If I invent a "character" for myself, and lace most of my communication with that, 1)people will take me less seriously, and, 2) what I have to say will become diluted. Do I have that much free time on my hands that I would choose to waste it that way?

I hope Kathy takes this as feedback, information, and *not* as insulting.

I have exchanged emails with Michael and Kathy and know them to be intelligent, warm, charming people.

People here feel that the frequent pretence is a barrier to communication. One can't ignore that we sometimes erect barriers. The question is, if others bring it to our attention that there *are* barriers, and they are in fact not necessary, then why keep them? To indicate independence - nobody is going to tell *me* what to do!!!??

That said, people are well within their "rights" here to be what they want.

I am of two minds. I have no desire to see Kathy change. I don't have the mental energy or the interest to see anyone here change. But at the same time, if mannerisms like the cat thing, the accents, and the 60's thing annoy me I am apt to skip her posts. And then I may miss something of value.

John

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Monday, April 25, 2005 - 7:05am

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Well said, John.....

ps - Jeanine wasn't roll playing, but yes certainly has a different perspective on things... different enough that paternal institutions like Christianity demonized, and most in today's culture, whether religious or not, accept as such - as many in here had pronouncely stated.....

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Monday, April 25, 2005 - 9:06am

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I was wrong in labelling Jeanine as I did in post # 15. Himself/herself should read, simply, herself. Man/woman, should read, someone. (Too late to go back in and make those kind of changes to the post).

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Monday, April 25, 2005 - 10:41am

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Come on, John, cut a little slack here.

What are they hiding? Who are they really? Why the mask?

How about just having some honest-to-goodness fun? Jumping for joy? Spontaneous outbursts of happiness? Even unashamedly being a "touchy-feely" "feel-good" creepy person that is occasionally sneered at around here by "sophisticated" sourpusses?

Ain't nobody hiding anything as far as I can see.

And inventing a character and playing it is not a waste of time for one with an artistic bent. It is part of what we do.

There is also another alternative to the "nobody is going to tell 'me' what to do" attitude. (That smells too much like the one-upmanship crap I loathe anyway.) It is being a good egoist and simply not giving a fuck what people think when you are happy.

On communicating, if you read my posts, you will find that I am serious when I have something serious to say - the Colonel only comes out for special moments. I will let Kat speak for herself about her own character if she finds it important (which I don't think she does - she is too busy being happy and making plans right now).

I am actually amused that this whole thing bothers a few people. I get the impression that what we do feels like a slap in the face to some of them.

Hmmmm...

I want to say to them - get happy. Go for it. That's what we are all here for, ain't it? You know, the Objectivism and morality leading to happiness thing? So get happy. Do it. If you don't like my way, do it your own way. It sure beats the hell out of bitching about someone else.

Bob - I loved your post. LOL. Thanks.

Jenny-baby - Dust mop? My Kitten?!!! I'll see you for a food-fight down at the hairdresser's.

Michael

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Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:15am

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Michael, I get that you guys are happy. I really do. :)

To the Moon, Alice...