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Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 5:39pmSanction this postReply
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Many people are of the impression that Ayn Rand, or her espoused philosophy: Objectivism, was/is harsh -- or at least indifferent -- toward the welfare of others. Rand morally delineated those who are irrationally selfish ("Nietzschean egoists"), from those who are rationally selfish, in the following quote ("Introduction," VOS, pb xi.):

This is said as a warning against the kind of "Nietzschean egoists" who, in fact, are a product of the altruist morality and represent the other side of the altruist coin: the men who believe that any action, regardless of its nature, is good if it is intended for one's own benefit. Just as the satisfaction of the irrational desires of others is not a criterion of moral value, neither is the satisfaction of one's own irrational desires. Morality is not a contest of whims.
Yet, many of those people of this impression (that Rand was selfish to a fault) will read this passage and still, somehow, continue believing that Rand promoted at least a mitigated, cut-throat (dog-eat-dog) behavior. Perhaps they require a more personal gesture from Rand -- one showing, rather than explaining, her benevolent attitude toward others. Such a demonstration is available on page 161 of The Romantic Manifesto, when Rand was telling "the American public" about the works of Victor Hugo. Note Rand's unapologetic adoption of the pay-it-forward principle ...

He helped to make it possible for me to be here and to be a writer. If I can help another young reader to find what I found in his work, if I can bring to the novels of Victor Hugo some part of the kind of audience he deserves, I shall regard it as a payment on an incalculable debt that can never be computed or repaid.
So much for the previous misidentification of Nietzschean egoism with either Rand or Objectivism!

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 7/14, 5:40pm)


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Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 7:33pmSanction this postReply
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Ed:

Good points. The presumption of many would-be readers of Rand is that she is rehashing Nietzschean ideas; they turn away as a result.

The point about the other side of the altruist coin is something I have been considering a great deal of late. Kids grow up thinking that the only escape from a tied down life of duty and serving others, the only way to be successful, is to become an aggressive prick/asshole who considers others to be sheep and means to his ends. This dog-eat-dog attitude is that of my contemporaries who think they've "made it" in business or other pursuits.

I will "make it" in business and everything else, but I will do it only by working hard and offering my competence in exchange for the competence and money of others- I will break no one.

As Rand did to Hugo, I will have to write a note of acknowledgement to Rand when I have "made it."

Tyson


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To care for one's self is to care for others in that one does not irrationally suppose s/he is an island in the vast sea of society. One who is rational recognizes that s/he is in fact interconnected with those who share common values and pursuits. Otherwise, why do we care for our family? Our friends? Our employees? And employers? Clearly, we don't share the same concern for family and friends as we do for others, but it does not negate the others, rather the others are of a different degree, not a different kind of concern. I think being self-aware is part of being "selfish" in the Randian sense, in that you need to care and know of yourself, and your goals, before you can act. Whether solely on your behalf or that of others.

For example, I deeply care about the state of education in this country (United States of America), and I think it's gone horribly wrong over the years (preceding my life and during my own). I make it an effort to help out how I can, either online (by providing valuable uncopyrighted materials freely) or offline (I help any of the fellow employees at my job who are underaged (or even older than me) on particular issues of study). None of this is out of a concern for the person, but rather a concern that the person has been hindered (if not terribly stifled) by the snares of bureaucracy. I do it out of the idea that one should learn to their maximal potential, and all I ask in return is that one who takes my knowledge does so willingly, nothing more. I don't do it out of altruism, I do it out of value. That's the key difference between Rand's egoism and Nietzsche's.

-- Brede

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