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Wednesday, May 21 - 6:36pmSanction this postReply
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To my knowledge, only the Democr-iminals have super-delegates.

They say that they're the "party of the people" but they manufactured these trump-card super-delegates in order to subvert the will of any greater majority.

Am I totally right that they're totally wrong (hypocrits) to do that?

Ed





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Wednesday, May 21 - 6:49pmSanction this postReply
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Yes.  http://rebirthofreason.com/Spirit/News/1783.shtml



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Wednesday, May 21 - 7:00pmSanction this postReply
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Political Parties are Private Organizations!

Political parties are private organizations. The constitution makes no provision for them. The Dems & Reps have colluded to establish themselves in an extra-legal manner by having the various states organize and pay for primary elections. Some primaries are open, some closed, some are mere caucuses which may not have state support.

In a free country, and following the constitution strictly, there should be no laws regarding an establishment of party. The Federal Election Commission is a fraud. Remember when Perot was included in the '92 debates? The FEC (with 3 (D) & 3 (R) members) made a rule that in future presidential elections, any third party candidate with 5% or higher polling would be invited. Ross Perot was polling around 10% in 1996 when he was excluded because the Commission decided he was not a "serious" contender.

PARTIES HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL STATUS!

The election system as it is now is a disgrace. I support a run-off election. It seems that the founders intended the general election to be a primary, with the House electing the president if such a run-off were needed.

However the Dems want to chose their demagogue is their own business.



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Thursday, May 22 - 12:57pmSanction this postReply
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Ed,

The Dems' Superdelegates came about as a way of preserving the core values of the party. This happened after the failed campaign of George McGovern, who ran and lost against Nixon back in 1972. The Superdelegates are supposed make sure the eventual candidate is a solid contender.

Superdelegates do not necessarily make Dems hypocritical. Democracy takes many shapes and forms. Direct democracy is rarely, if ever, a rarely. Filtered democracies of some sort or other almost always win the day.

Jordan



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Sunday, June 15 - 3:30pmSanction this postReply
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It makes them hypocrites, since the notion of superdelegates can act only to do what the majority wanted in the best case, and subvert it in the worst, opening up the possibility of a contradiction to their claim of being a "party of the people."  That they are a private organization and may form their own rules and by-laws does not alter this. 




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Monday, June 16 - 5:36pmSanction this postReply
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The party of the people is slogan, not a policy or an explicit platform. To expect a party to follow its own bylaws is reasonable. To think that slogans are anything more than slogans is naive.

In any case, unlike the Italians and the Israelis, we elect people, not parties. To say that this is unimportant is to be entirely ignorant of the difference between our republican system and a parliamentary system. It is of utmost centrality.



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