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Monday, October 6 - 7:28amSanction this postReply
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Last night on 60 Minutes there was a segment about credit default swaps and their role in the mortgage-induced crisis. The transcript is here. I have some comments.

Correspondent Steve Kroft and others described credit default swaps as "the heart of this mess". Only one person, Robert Pickel, gave any defense of them. Well, they are a part, but I don't assign them that big a role.

Also, the biggest sellers of the equivalent of credit default swaps have been Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As you might expect, the show was completely silent about them. What Fannie and Freddie do aren't called credit default swaps, but that is the essence. They sell protection, in exchange for a small slice of the mortgage interest (and maybe other related fees) against default.

Blaming credit default swaps for the mortgage mess is like blaming your insurance policy, which maybe doesn't payoff when your house burns down, as the cause of the fire.

Many buyers of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) bought credit default swaps to hedge their MBS holdings. I suspect they did this on mortgage pools that were not backed by Fannie or Freddie. If the pool was backed by Fannie or Freddie, then there was no perceived need to hedge the default risk. The buyers thought they were insulating themselves from default risk. Reality later sometimes said not so.

Credit default swaps were described as an "unregulated shadow market worth nearly $60 trillion." The $60 trillion is very misleading. That is the notional amount. The cash flows from the buyers and sellers are a very small fraction of this. Using notional amounts is like describing the homeowners insurance market by summing the maximum coverage amount on each house rather than using premiums and/or claims.

Also, there can be a lot of double-counting when notional amounts are summed. Suppose X as buyer and Y as seller enter a credit default swap with a notional amount of $100 million. Then Y enters another swap with a notional amount of $100 million as buyer with Z as seller. Y has hedged its risk and, practically speaking, is no longer a participant. Effectively, there is a notional amount of $100 million with X as buyer and Z as seller. Yet the notional amounts can be summed to $200 million.

There was much talk about this being an unregulated market. It's also a very young and fast-changing market. If regulators had stepped in some time ago, would they have done more harm than good? Very likely. On the other hand, they may have clogged the mortgage-making machine much earlier on its path to implosion. Would investors have put so much into MBS if they could not have bought credit default swaps? Would the regulators have foreseen that? Would Congress or the regulators have clamped down on Fannie and Freddie, too? Would Congress have foreseen clogging the mortgage machine and blocked any proposed legislation? Ah, unintended consequences and 20-20 hindsight.

(Edited by Merlin Jetton on 10/06, 12:50pm)




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Monday, October 6 - 9:41amSanction this postReply
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Fed Planning Credit Default Swap Marketplace

“…creation of a new clearing house, or exchange, where CDS’s can be traded with more transparency and with a degree of government oversight.”

 

Currently the ICE and CME are bidding to provide this exchange.

 




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Monday, October 6 - 9:53amSanction this postReply
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ICE. Cool.  :-)

Here is another story about regulating CDS.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0638244120081006
Note how Barney Frank points his finger to divert attention from himself and his crony friends and politicians. I'm amazed he didn't say it was all George Bush's fault.

Pressured to Take More Risk, Fannie Reached Tipping Point
Excerpt: "When the mortgage giant Fannie Mae recruited Daniel H. Mudd, he told a friend he wanted to work for an altruistic business."

(Edited by Merlin Jetton on 10/06, 1:09pm)




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Monday, October 6 - 1:18pmSanction this postReply
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Merlin - this line is virtually right out of Atlas:

Almost no one expected what was coming. It’s not fair to blame us for not predicting the unthinkable.— Daniel H. Mudd, former chief executive, Fannie Mae




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Monday, October 6 - 2:49pmSanction this postReply
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> this line is virtually right out of Atlas:

Even the name, Mudd, could have come from AS.


(Edited by C. Jeffery Small on 10/06, 2:50pm)




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Monday, October 6 - 6:13pmSanction this postReply
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“Almost no one expected what was coming. It’s not fair to blame us for not predicting the unthinkable.“— Daniel H. Mudd, former chief executive, Fannie Mae
And here is an excerpt from page 3 of the NYT article:
For two years, Mr. Mudd operated without a permanent chief risk officer to guard against unhealthy hazards. When Enrico Dallavecchia was hired for that position in 2006, he told Mr. Mudd that the company should be charging more to handle risky loans.
In the following months to come, Mr. Dallavecchia warned that some markets were becoming overheated and argued that a housing bubble had formed, according to a person with knowledge of the conversations. But many of the warnings were rebuffed.
Mr. Mudd told Mr. Dallavecchia that the market, shareholders and Congress all thought the companies should be taking more risks, not fewer, according to a person who observed the conversation. “Who am I supposed to fight with first?” Mr. Mudd asked.
In the interview, Mr. Mudd said he never made those comments. Mr. Dallavecchia was among those whom Mr. Mudd forced out of the company during a reorganization in August.




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