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Wednesday, March 12 - 3:57pmSanction this postReply
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The free participating Athenians had this sense. They is why the choose the Pnyx (the place where 6000 qualified Athenian participants gathered)which is right across the way from the Agora (the market place of Athens).

Bob Kolker




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Thursday, March 13 - 7:32amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for posting this, this is good material to send to family members and friends who need some reconsidering of their liberal values. I found this passage particular good


I found not only that I didn't trust the current government (that, to me, was no surprise), but that an impartial review revealed that the faults of this president—whom I, a good liberal, considered a monster—were little different from those of a president whom I revered.

Bush got us into Iraq, JFK into Vietnam. Bush stole the election in Florida; Kennedy stole his in Chicago. Bush outed a CIA agent; Kennedy left hundreds of them to die in the surf at the Bay of Pigs. Bush lied about his military service; Kennedy accepted a Pulitzer Prize for a book written by Ted Sorenson. Bush was in bed with the Saudis, Kennedy with the Mafia. Oh.

And I began to question my hatred for "the Corporations"—the hatred of which, I found, was but the flip side of my hunger for those goods and services they provide and without which we could not live.




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Thursday, March 13 - 6:47pmSanction this postReply
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I agree: this was a nice little essay. 

I have to say, though, that anything about a New York (or The New Yorker) always sounds like it is coming from Frank -- in You've Got Mail: the greatest living expert on Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who could never be with someone who didn't take politics seriously.

Like Michael Dickey, I found that paragraph perhaps the definitive one.  I also liked this.

This is, to me, the synthesis of this worldview with which I now found myself disenchanted: that everything is always wrong.
But in my life, a brief review revealed, everything was not always wrong, and neither was nor is always wrong in the community in which I live, or in my country. Further, it was not always wrong in previous communities in which I lived, and among the various and mobile classes of which I was at various times a part.
And, I wondered, how could I have spent decades thinking that I thought everything was always wrong at the same time that I thought I thought that people were basically good at heart?
I think that also sums up much of how many of us experience Objectivism.  We rage at the outrages, yet insist that these people are rational enough to be argued into the beliefs we want them to have...  And... nonetheless...  it all sort of goes along quite nicely ...




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