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Monday, June 29 - 4:35pmSanction this postReply
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Shouldn't the headline simply read "Firefighters win Supreme Court Appeal"?



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Monday, June 29 - 4:39pmSanction this postReply
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This just proves that Catholics, while anti-life and tasteless in their choice of clothing, can still serve a purpose.



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Monday, June 29 - 4:51pmSanction this postReply
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Are you referring to Alito? Or Ricci?



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Monday, June 29 - 5:51pmSanction this postReply
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Come on Ted, you know firefighters are sexy.




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Monday, June 29 - 5:56pmSanction this postReply
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Actually, no, not my type at all. And how do you know he's Catholic?



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Monday, June 29 - 6:14pmSanction this postReply
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I copied the title directly from the article. There were a few parts that seemed biased.

The ruling could alter employment practices nationwide and make it harder to prove discrimination when there is no evidence it was intentional.


I thought this was a gem. Shouldn't it always be hard to prove something when there is no evidence? Is discrimination something you can do unintentionally?


Anyway, I was thinking about this decision and whether it made things better or worse. The majority opinion said:

"Fear of litigation alone cannot justify an employer's reliance on race to the detriment of individuals who passed the examinations and qualified for promotions."

So the employer can't hedge against litigation. But the Supreme Court didn't seem to do anything to protect the employer from litigation. They just declared you can't make a (politically) wise decision to avoid being sued.

From the business point of view, it seems like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. You can still be sued for discrimination even though you weren't discriminating. And if you do discriminate to avoid those lawsuits, you can get sued for discriminating! How do you avoid it?

Did this ruling just create a lose-lose situation for the employer? Or will this have some kind of actual effect on preventing discrimination lawsuits?






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Monday, June 29 - 6:24pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, Joe my criticism of the headline was meant for the fool who composed it.



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Tuesday, June 30 - 9:18amSanction this postReply
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George Will:  "The Slog goes on"




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Tuesday, June 30 - 11:14amSanction this postReply
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Mike, I love that last line in Will's column: "This is the predictable price of failing to simply insist that government cannot take cognizance of race."



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Tuesday, June 30 - 2:01pmSanction this postReply
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I have no problems with tests being reviewed to assure they are fair and equitable to all candidates. This should be a simple, unambiguous concept. Having tests written specifically to assure success of any one group becomes immediately unfair. Tests and laws should be blind to race.

jt



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Tuesday, June 30 - 4:24pmSanction this postReply
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I think a test is designed to discriminate against certain people. It can be no other way. Were it to be anything other than a device of discrimination it would cease to be what it is, a test.

On the point of any test which is created to assure the success of any group, say white men over black women, I can't imagine how that would even be possible. Is the information available to blacks different than that available to whites?



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