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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 9:14amSanction this postReply
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Unbelievers who stand in the way, creating obstacles for the Holy Call, are blamed for this state of war, for the Holy Call can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it. In other words, those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them.

I am an Unbeliever.

I am standing in the way.

I am an obstacle.

I will not submit.

I will resist.

I will win.


gw




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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 9:22amSanction this postReply
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This bears a striking resemblance to those Marxists who claim that all violence under Marxist regimes results from counterrevolution.



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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 10:26amSanction this postReply
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I wonder was Christian Crusaders' mentality similar to this? Is there a parallel between "crusade" and "jihad"? And yet today most Christians have adopted a much more moderate views. I only hope that Muslims will do the same.

"the black night give me black eyes,
still I use them to seek the light"
- Gu Cheng, 1979




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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 12:25pmSanction this postReply
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Is he threatening me? His force will be the cause of my resistance, and the cause of the war. I shall fight till the death to protect my right of religious freedom. Or to protect my right to the lack of a religion.



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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 12:41pmSanction this postReply
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One could say he threatens me - so if I took him out, it would be an act of self-defense?



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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 1:01pmSanction this postReply
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Tangent here - food for thought........


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Someone just came up with a great idea for Dan Brown and Ron Howard to follow up. In 1972 scrolls were found in Yemen proving that the prophetic visions that Muhammad had were not his but his wife's. He became her mouthpiece because in tribal society a woman's word would not be accepted (to this day). After she died, Mohammad then corrupted her vision of Islam with his greed and warrior-like ways. That story has everything Brown likes, including a mystic feminist angle.

What? Unlike Opus Dei, the Islamic Brotherhood does go through on violent threats? Darn! I guess there's no money in being courageous if the target of your book really fights back; is there?





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Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 1:12pmSanction this postReply
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Be careful not to let this become a case of "shooting the messenger".  The Barnes and Noble webpage description of one of his books has the following:

The Challenge of Fundamentalism

By Bassam Tibi

 

Library Journal

Fundamentalism is generally viewed as a reemergent traditional religion expressing itself in the wider society through rigid politics. Tibi, a professor of international relations at the University of Göttingen and the author of several books on modern Arab history and politic, sees Islamic fundamentalism as a modern totalitarian political movement that makes selective use of popular religious devotion. Explaining that all major religions can be used for such tight social control, Tibi argues that Islamic fundamentalism, inherently violent and repressive, creates social disorder and is a sort of communism in ecclesiastical garb. This highly informed and technical work, aimed at historians and political scientists, rewards careful study. Recommended for academic libraries and public libraries with substantial collections in religion or modern politics.--James F. DeRoche, Alexandria, VA

Thanks,
Glenn




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Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 6:32amSanction this postReply
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Hong Zhang wrote:

"I wonder was Christian Crusaders' mentality similar to this? Is there a parallel between "crusade" and "jihad"? And yet today most Christians have adopted a much more moderate views. I only hope that Muslims will do the same."

Actually, there is very little difference. Ever read the history of El Cid? His band of "Christian Crusaders" was a mix of Muslim Arabs and Christians. What "crusades" they went on, depended on who was paying, and most of the time, the money was Arab.

The only reason they're remembered as Christian Crusaders is the success of the pope and the church in spinning it as such.



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Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 6:53amSanction this postReply
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As are much of the 'facts' the Church claim in, for instance, seeking to counter such as The Da Vinci Code...... 



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Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:02pmSanction this postReply
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By that logic, the Jews were responsible for the holocaust. If they'd just welcomed it, it wouldn't have been murder!

Andy.



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