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Post 20

Friday, January 26, 2007 - 8:24amSanction this postReply
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Hmmm, I can't seem to change Mr. Obama's name.  Of course, it should be Barack.

Bauer




Post 21

Friday, January 26, 2007 - 9:20amSanction this postReply
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Actually, it should be Hussein.......

[Hussein the insane, the disdained of ole 'Bama? ;-)]

(Edited by robert malcom on 1/26, 9:22am)




Post 22

Friday, January 26, 2007 - 9:26amSanction this postReply
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Yer a boney-fide lyricist, ye are, Mr. Malcolm.  And yer funny, too.  How many people do you think will be confused and believe you are talking about Saddam?
Bauer




Post 23

Friday, January 26, 2007 - 10:32amSanction this postReply
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Bar [ack!] Hussein Obama? where's the confusion? both dis dainful......
[one's deceased, the other's diseased];-) [metaphorically speaking....]

(Edited by robert malcom on 1/26, 10:36am)




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Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:01amSanction this postReply
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Ted said,

"The history of SE Europe is a curse that keeps on giving, does anyone know why Gavrilo Princip was the most evil man of the 20th century?"

(I'll have you know that I resisted the urge to google the name)

I remember from 20th century history class in high school (one of my favorite classes) a man named Princip who assasinated the Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria in 1914...which (according to my lessons) basically led to the start of the First World War. Is this the same guy, or have I just embarrassed myself trying to answer your trivia question? :-)

Erica



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Friday, January 26, 2007 - 2:19pmSanction this postReply
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But he was no more 'evil' than many others, and a lot less - he was no more than just a stone in the way of an otherwise afternoon walk of pompousness... 



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Friday, January 26, 2007 - 4:22pmSanction this postReply
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First, Yes, Chris & Erica, this is the Serb who assassinated the Heir of the Austrian throne in the name of Serbian expansionism.

As to whether he was the "most evil" it depends on whether one holds that WWI was inevitable, and that it would have happened even without his act. (One can also argue the standard O'ist line that philosophy is primary, which is fine, except without the acts of individuals, philosphies instantiate nothing on their own.) But WWII was certainly NOT inevitable, and did result as a consequence of WWI. While growing up, WWII was always taught as the seminal event of the 20th Century. But WWI was ever so much more a tragedy and a long-term curse, begetting Soviet communism, Nazi Germany, and even the Balkan wars of the 1990's, which many isl*mists (pathetically) cite as a reason to hate the West, which "let" the m*slim Bosnians be slaughtered. Princip's act set off the most evil string of events in human history, and reverberates today even in the demoralization of Europe in the face of m*slim expansionism. One might argue that this Orthodox Christian stooge handed Europe to his people's historic nemesis 100 years after his death.

I highly recommend Hew Strachan's eye-opening book on the war in general (not the more limited books on its breakout, and its finanancing) and the ten-part series based on the book shown on the Military Channel, and also available on DVD. The quality exceeds that of Ken Burns' series on the Civil War.

Perhaps more, when I have time.

Ted



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