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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:02amSanction this postReply
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The dictionary I looked at has six definitions for the word faith, it is not a big dictionary so there may be more. The quote to me clarifies the power of deductive reasoning over inductive reasoning . It also brings to mind another feeling called courage,like Galileo  Galilei    had ,so what if mars didn't have canals .He still  contributed a lot to the  self awareness of humanity. It also has a warning in it for me sort of like, don't count your chickens before they hatch.  That is the impression I get.



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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 6:23pmSanction this postReply
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Harley, I am not sure if you have the right notion of inductive versus deductive here. Both forms are equally valid, but induction is the harder and the more prior form. One must first induce one's generalizations, and then deduce specific conclusions from prior premises. Most childhood learning is inductive. Without induction one never gets to the premises to begin with. Rand's point is more toward what one accepts as authority - one's own judgement, which one can correct through introspection - or the authority of others - which one may accept at one's risk, but the validity of whose origins one is unable to judge.

Ted

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Tuesday, June 5, 2007 - 7:43pmSanction this postReply
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I paraphrased this quote a while back on a different thread, and was told that it was irrational because it presented a false dichotomy. That's Rand...always trying to hoodwink us with those false dichotomies!



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Tuesday, June 5, 2007 - 8:34pmSanction this postReply
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It has been my observation that the habit of accepting ideas on faith begins about the time that children learn their multiplication tables, around age 10. At that point, some people start to memorize words, rather than to exert the mental effort to comprehend concepts. The habit becomes to learn what phrases to parrot, rather than to integrate new knowledge. Dates are memorized, names are memorized, but how many people truly come to understand such notions as the electoral college, compound interest, recessive genes, or a sound currency? We get demands for a popular vote from demagogues on behalf of a populace that often doesn't know that the President isn't elected according to a popular vote. How many people actually understand the origin of paper money? How else could this nation have left a hard currency standard, and at the same time praise FDR as having "saved" our economy.

Even Reagan's popularity wasn't truly based on support for his policies so much as his appearance of strength. People took him on faith. Had he been in any way as malevolent as some on the Left and in the media portrayed him, the evil he could have done would have been incalculable. And the evil done by his successor was made possible only because people associated GHWB with his predecessor. Any true understanding of the elder Bush would have made his unsuitability for office obvious. Unfortunately his predecessor (who himself did not campaign for him) was Reagan, and his opponent was Michael Dukakis. We are paying today in Iraq for the price of the faith that people put in Reagan and in his anointed successor.

Ted Keer



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