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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 11:34amSanction this postReply
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I just found this quote interesting, as it comes right when Michael Moore's "Sicko" movie, about the Cuba's socialized medical system, is being released.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:54pmSanction this postReply
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I saw the story on the news this morning. Naaaaassssstyyeeee.  Ew.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 8:01pmSanction this postReply
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What should be done with him, you know, in a rational legal system?

Since he cannot be cured and since he caused a huge amount of harm, I believe that he should be surgically disassembled and his body parts sold to pay compensation to his victims.

In fact, I think that should be discussed for all Homicides, Rapes, Robberies, Burglaries, Larcenies, and Assaults.  (Auto theft is trivial.)

The only problem is that the adversarial system is so flawed that we have hundreds of miscarriages of justice.  In this, case, however, we have the perpetrator, so let's not equivocate.  Just take him apart and sell him off.




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Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 10:47amSanction this postReply
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Mr Marotta must have read "A Gift from Earth" or several other SciFi sotries by Larry Niven.



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Friday, June 1, 2007 - 10:26amSanction this postReply
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Michael M,

What are you talking about? This guy had asymptomatic, noncontagious TB. I doubt anyone will catch anything and if they do they can pursue civil remedies.  Meanwhile the man in question can be prosecuted for violating a federal quarantine (not sure what the legal penalty is for that).

Jim




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Friday, June 1, 2007 - 11:19amSanction this postReply
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More quarantine.....;-)
(Edited by robert malcom on 6/01, 11:20am)




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Friday, June 1, 2007 - 8:05pmSanction this postReply
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Again, MM, you shock me. At this point I can't even react enough to put good words to page. What the hell?
(Edited by Steve
on 6/01, 8:20pm)




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Friday, June 1, 2007 - 8:15pmSanction this postReply
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Does no one have a sense of humor anymore?



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Saturday, June 2, 2007 - 8:39amSanction this postReply
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Yes, Jonathan, it's entirely possible this could be tongue in cheek, but damn!!  :-).

Jim




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Saturday, June 2, 2007 - 5:17pmSanction this postReply
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If this guy was cognizant of his condition and actually did infect others through reckless endangerment, it would be pretty damn close to murder, and it would certainly be premeditated. If someone did die, I'd have no problem with Mike's suggestion. Of course, the problem with cutting him up would be that the parts, as likely carrying contagion, would probably be worthless.

And Niven had the government harvesting organs for mere parking violations. Certainly Ron Paul would prevent any law like that getting on the books. Mike, I sanctioned you, but I would leave statutory rape, burglary, and larceny of the list.

Ted








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Tuesday, July 3, 2007 - 12:25amSanction this postReply
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Although the meaning of the above quotation is clear from the context, an ambiguity in the wording struck me as worth commenting on.

Take the clause, ". . . he feared he might die without treatment in the U.S." Does it mean, "he feared he might die without treatment . . . in the U.S." Or: "he feared he might die . . . without treatment in the U.S." The first means, "he feared that in the U.S., he might die without treatment."; the second, "he feared that without treatment in the U.S., he might die." These two sentences carry quite different -- indeed virtually opposite -- meanings, which illustrates the importance of spotting potential ambiguities in one's statements and of of making clear their meaning.

In this particular case, the entire statement tells one which meaning the writer intended, but there are cases in which the context might not clarify the ambiguity. If the sentence simply said, "The man feared he might die without treatment in the U.S.," the intended meaning would not be obvious. It could mean either of the two interpretations cited above, and could therefore present a potential confusion.

I make this point, because I sometimes see ambiguous writing which can pose a problem for the reader's interpretation. Something to watch out for.

- Bill



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