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Thursday, August 2, 2007 - 4:02pmSanction this postReply
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The "Council on American Isl*mic Relations" threatened legal action against the Young America's Foundation if they did not drop terrorist specialist Robert Spencer, author of The Truth About Muhammad, from speaking at a DC conference. The YAF did not back down and Spencer spoke as scheduled.
- from FOX News

Ted Keer

(Edited by Ted Keer on 8/02, 4:50pm)




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Thursday, August 2, 2007 - 4:29pmSanction this postReply
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<sarcasm>
Such a peaceful, tolerant people, those Muslims.
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Thursday, August 2, 2007 - 9:46pmSanction this postReply
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Bastards!



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Thursday, August 2, 2007 - 10:31pmSanction this postReply
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Well, Bill, what would you expect from this terrorist apologist group? I took the news story itself to be enheartening, since not only did the YAF have the guts to respond in exactly the manner warranted, even better, FOX News reported the response without apology or euphemism.

While my Danish, German, Irish and Ruthenian ancestors all fought in WWI, my father's father who was half-German was forbidden from working his trade as a boilermaker in the Camden shipyards during WWII since his mother was German. He was no member of the German-American-Bund. His uncle had died killing Krauts in France in the Great War. CAIR has over and over shown that it is little more than a leftist legal front for terrorist sympathizers, yet the government and the press treat it with kid gloves. If anyone, I'd call those who coddle CAIR the bastards.

Ted



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Friday, August 3, 2007 - 9:15amSanction this postReply
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The organization should be coercively disbanded and its leaders exiled. We're at war.



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Friday, August 3, 2007 - 2:23pmSanction this postReply
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I could certainly see having the group declared a criminal organization after a proper trial, and having their assets seized and imprisoning any principals shown to have acted illegally or treasonously. The problem is that this group is run by savvy lawyers and many are US citizens. Short of treason, we can't do much to citizens for their views. But I do sympathize with your position.

Ted



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Friday, August 3, 2007 - 5:27pmSanction this postReply
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The letter is here. YAF's reaction could very well be: "Yes, please sue us. Then we can prove in court that your allegations are false." If Spencer's accusations are false, then CAIR should sue him in court. They have not done so, and my guess is that it is because Spencer's allegations are true.




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Friday, August 3, 2007 - 7:49pmSanction this postReply
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"It is not an act of hatred against Muslims to point out the depredations of jihad ideology. It is a peculiar species of displacement and projection to accuse someone who exposes the hatred of one group of hatred himself: I believe in the equality of rights and dignity of all people, and that is why I oppose the global jihad. And I think that those who make the charge know better in any case: they use the charge as a tool to frighten the credulous and politically correct away from the truth."

Robert Spencer




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Saturday, August 4, 2007 - 9:51amSanction this postReply
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More than mere speech, I would say.

Anti-CAIR
"Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a “Ismail” Royer, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison
for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting three persons
who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for the purpose of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan.
Royer’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR

CAIR's Director of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a
terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt.
Khafagi’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR.

On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of the Holy Land Foundation,
and a brother-in-law of Musa Abu Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things,
making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy
and money laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at CAIR, and was found Guilty.

CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing,
has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble
unless it accepts Islam.

Rabih Haddad served as a CAIR Fundraiser. Haddad was co-founder of the Global Relief Foundation (“GRF”).
GRF was designated by the US Treasury Department for financing the Al Qaida and other terrorist organizations
and its assets were frozen by the US Government on December 14, 2001."




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