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Monday, March 17 - 4:28pmSanction this postReply
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This quote reared its ugly head in a news link posted here by Bill Dwyer on March 11, 2008. It's an important quote -- so I tracked down the source of it. It speaks reams.

Ed




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Monday, March 17 - 5:28pmSanction this postReply
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So speaks the Panzer-Pontiff.

Vee haff vays of making you humble.


It really bothers me when Benny 16 does the straight arm salute instead of making the sign of the cross. Sieg Heil mein Herr.

Bob Kolker




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Tuesday, March 18 - 12:13amSanction this postReply
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Exactly, Bob. I’m sure the church realizes that people who see themselves as weak and sinful can be ruled much more easily than those with authentic pride and self-esteem. God forbid that people should have some dignity and self-respect!

The Pope also complained that an increasing number of people in the secularized West were “making do without God.”

Making do without God? You mean the same God who commanded Moses to stone a man to death for working on the Sabbath? -- who killed every firstborn child in Egypt and ordered the mass-rape of 32,000 girls after killing their families? -- who struck dead 50,000 innocent people for merely looking into the ark of the covenant and drowned nearly every man, woman and child during the flood of Noah? You mean that God? I’d say it’s a good thing they’re “making do” without God.

The Pope said that hedonism and consumerism had even invaded “the bosom of the Church itself, deeply undermining the Christian faith from within, and undermining the lifestyle and daily behavior of believers.”

Yeah, God forbid that we should enjoy ourselves and improve our standard of living through “hedonism and consumerism.” I guess the Pope would prefer that we wear sackcloth and ashes, live in mud huts and castigate ourselves for thinking secular thoughts. It appears that the Catholic Church is becoming more and more like the anti-secular, anti-Western Muslims.






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Tuesday, March 18 - 3:48amSanction this postReply
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Mr. Dwyer writes:

Yeah, God forbid that we should enjoy ourselves and improve our standard of living through “hedonism and consumerism.” I guess the Pope would prefer that we wear sackcloth and ashes, live in mud huts and castigate ourselves for thinking secular thoughts. It appears that the Catholic Church is becoming more and more like the anti-secular, anti-Western Muslims.


I respond:

More like castrate outselves.

May all your thoughts be secular.

Bob Kolker




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Wednesday, March 19 - 5:38amSanction this postReply
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What the Pope doesn't understand -- and likely no Pope ever has -- is that there is a difference between the false pride of effortless autonomy that leads one to utter:

"The world be damned, I don't need anyone; being a self-satisfying psycho-spiritually content island unto myself"

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the genuine pride that leads one to internalize:

"... that radiant selfishness of soul which desires the best in all things, in values of matter and spirit, a soul that seeks above all else to achieve its own moral perfection, valuing nothing higher than itself—and that the proof of an achieved self-esteem is your soul's shudder of contempt and rebellion against ... the vile impertinence of any creed that proposes to immolate the irreplaceable value which is your consciousness and the incomparable glory which is your existence to the blind evasions and the stagnant decay of others."

Popes can't seem to see the difference. Shame on them.

Ed
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(Edited by Ed Thompson on 3/19, 11:44am)




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