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Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 4:42amSanction this postReply
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This is a wonderful summary. I have always tried to point out the disconnect between the left's supposed championing of the downtrodden of the world and their protectionist economic policies. Unfortunately, protectionist arguments "sell well" to people who don't care to spend more than a couple of minutes in contemplation of a problem.



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Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 5:55amSanction this postReply
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Protectionist policies do indeed sell well to unions as well as agricultural and manufacturing interests. Votes count more than ethics. And in a time when ethics and *rights* are bought and sold by politicians, it is hard to counter protectionism with free trade. It is very difficult to sift through and show the extent of harm, because the variables (govt intervention at different stages of the game) are many and complex.

John



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Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 8:26amSanction this postReply
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John, it's true that it's hard to sort out the effects of protectionist tariffs. It's much like inflationary spending, where the short-term benefits are politically advantageous, but the long-term consequences are real and suffocating.

I live around a dying steel town whose leaders would have someone from the outside come in and save them, rather than make it easier for residents to try to save themselves. Bush's steel tariffs were the "savior" that they were looking for. The tariffs kinda, sorta, helped out the town. At least, that's what Bush's campaign fliers imply.

Meanwhile, a hundred miles away, my brother works in a steel fabrication plant, where the rising cost of steel is felt hard. It's still rising (there's a strong international demand now), but the fact remains that my brother's job has been made all the more difficult because of folks who'd rather fight foreign producers than be productive themselves!



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Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 3:59pmSanction this postReply
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I agree that protectionism is immoral and ultimately bad for the economy, but it's easy to understand where support and sympathy for such policies come from.  Many if not most blue collar workers are hard working people who live within their means and simply just want to earn an honest living.  They take great pride in their work and their ability to fend for themselves.  I know a few such people personally. If I ran a mill of some sort, I know I would have a hard time laying off loyal employeess who had stayed with my firm for many years and don't have many other marketable skills.  Arguments about economic theory typically fall on deaf ears to these people.




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Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 8:27amSanction this postReply
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Whoops, I should have been more specific. My brother works on the shop floor, not in the office! And it's incredible what he can build with his hands. He's even designed and built his own home. He never ceases to amaze me.

The best businessmen that ever lived all spent some time doing blue-collar work. That's the sort of experience that you can't pick up in business school.

It's true that most workers don't have the time to see how protectionism takes their incentive to work out of their hands. If the favors fall their way, they don't see a reason to prepare for the coming burst in the bubble. And if they lose out, then they still manage to survive, but they might end up supporting protectionism that favors them, either at the ballot box or through their company's or union's politicking.

Protectionism distorts the economic value of certain types of work. But if workers really do value their productive skills, couldn't they be persuaded that the ideal political and economic system would accurately reflect the real value of their work? I wish I could put it in simpler terms than that.



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