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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 7:03amSanction this postReply
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I think there are some problems here.  First of all, my experience with utilities, which are private entities even though government regulated, has been rather good.  Outages are fixed quickly and efficiently, as well or better than other types of private corporations fix things.  Second, the infrastructure costs are very high.  Therefore, any utility that were to establish itself (having already paid for said infrastructure) would most likely never lose out to new competition, who would have to sink a large (and duplicating) cost into infrastructure.  Much of this cost is currently part of other government areas, such as streets and sewers, meaning that the utility is already entangled and so this would also involve privatizing roads and other areas, not just utilities.  This does not mean there are not problems, but it is not as simple an answer as you make out.  I also find that with such gigantic, fat targets out there already, why spend time on these fringes?  Lets worry about the big fish first.  Get rid of the fricking agricultural subsidies, then talk to me.

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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 7:18amSanction this postReply
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This is a very well written and concise article. I'm saving this one.

Thank you Mr. Stolyarov.

Kurt,

There's the rub: you cannot know what private enterprise would have done without coercive government monopolies.

i.e.: "Outages? What outages?"

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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 3:17pmSanction this postReply
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Mr. Erickson,

Thank you for your kind words. I am glad that you enjoyed my article and found it beneficial.

Mr. Eichert,

Thank you for your comments. I disagree with you, of course, though my disagreement is too extensive to elaborate here. I will likely author an article on what the best way to create positive intellectual, cultural, or political change might be. My suggested method would involve precisely the sort of "working on the fringes" that you criticize. This is an important issue, and I hope to someday do it justice.

I am
G. Stolyarov II


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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 4:35pmSanction this postReply
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But Kurt, if it's too costly to set up duplicate infrastructure then why outlaw it? If it wouldn't occur in a free market then why is it of any concern? There actually is such a thing as natural monopolies where the start up costs are too high for multiple companies to compete. Actually I wrote a post on another forum that explains not all monopolies are bad, only artificial ones:

One of the misconceptions a lot of people have over monopolies is the confusion of an artificial monopoly over a natural monopoly. An artificial monopoly is created by the government, through protectionist legislation that regulate an industry thereby keeping out any new prospect companies from entering the market place. (Environmental regulations have also been known to serve the same perverse consequence). For example, long ago cable companies were given "territories" in providing cable service to customers, thereby creating artificial monopolies all over the country. Another example, all states have liquor laws that divide up the state into territories of liquor distributorship. If you sell for instance Budweiser, you are given a territory to sell Budweiser whereby no other distributor can sell Budweiser in your territory. This also applies to environmental regulations, we are seeing it today on the news. The oil companies are an artificial monopoly because of over-bearing environmental regulations that prevent anyone from drilling new oil reserves in the United States.



A natural monopoly (let's say company x) is one where the free market, because of inherently high costs to produce a certain good or service, yields a monopoly to produce said good or service. But a natural monopoly can't get away with charging too high a price, because if a price is charged too high, then another prospective company could enter the market and make a huge profit by underselling company x. Even though the start up costs would be very high, there would be a lot to gain in a return on that investment because company x charged such a high price, even charging just a little under company x's prices will yield high profits. So company x responds by dropping the price, or knows they don't want more companies to compete with, and will thus not raise the price too high. Natural monopolies can also not charge too high a price because of "substitution". This is where a different product, but still similiar enough, takes over the market. For example, if the price of beef goes too high for consumers, consumers stop buying beef and start buying chicken for their food. In this instance, chicken is a substitute for beef. So really natural monopolies are either good, because they are providing a good at a price people are willing to pay for, or they simply cannot last for too long because of increased competition or substitution of the product.



Now, in truly free markets, there is a scale of one extreme to the other, all depending on how expensive it is to start up a company to sell a certain good or service and what it cost to produce said good and service. On one extreme there's only one company selling product (x) let's say. And the other extreme, there's millions of companies selling product (x). The free market comprises of a multitude of markets with varying degrees of competition within it.



Now if there are too many companies selling product (x), you start to see some go out of business, or some try to restructure and sell a different product, or sell their company to a competitor. Ultimately there is a certain "equilibrium" that's attained where the "correct" amount of competition for a particular market exists.



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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 6:45amSanction this postReply
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I am just saying that for practical purposes it does not matter all that much if it is an enforced monopoly or not.  Technology will make a lot of this go away as well, the one thing I can't see is water.  You can come up with new communications methods (as has been done), new small sources of power that make electric companies dinosaurs (not yet done), but water?  Don't see how because it can'tbe made smaller.  I don't see how competition would be effective in water.  I see the author has some concept in mind regarding this, but as of yet I see utilities as a very peripheral issue.  The less regulation, the better, of course.  Especially regarding laws that let deadbeats keep using service when they don't pay.  It is well known that moochers take serious advantage of this on a systematic basis.
(Edited by Kurt Eichert on 5/17, 6:46am)


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