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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 11:57amSanction this postReply
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Thank you for this magnificent essay. I enjoyed the broad theme of the value of intellectual integration and the importance of system building. Your comparison of the value approach of Mises, Menger, and Rand is interesting; I liked your comment that Mises and Rand, from their perspectives as economist and ethicist, were talking about different things when they discussed values. I was fascinated to learn that Menger, whom I have never read, thought values were objective and served human flourishing.

I'll read through again more carefully, later. Perhaps I'll have questions or comments at that time.


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 4:33pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you Mark for your kind words. I am pleased that you liked this essay.

Please let me know if you can see some ways that I can improve upon my diagram or otherwise clarify my ideas.

Cheers!!!

Ed

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 8:57pmSanction this postReply
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Natural rights are metanormative principles that regulate the conditions under which moral conduct and human flourishing can take place. The individual right to liberty secures the possibility of self-direction in a social context. To secure individuals’ natural rights, men must seek to establish the structural political conditions that protect that possibility. Each person must be accorded a secure moral space over which he has freedom to act and to pursue his personal flourishing. Individual human flourishing is the standard underpinning the assessment that a goal is rational and should be sought. People are moral agents whose project it is to excel at being the particular human being that one is.

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This part I like the most, because even though it's a form of natural rights, it's a form I can accept because it doesn't make an ethereal pleading to God, or Nature. It simply observes the fact that humans are metaphysically individual, thus their actions must be taken into account as such, which means rights are necessary to ensure a group of humans can survive [and thrive] to their own respective benefit. Moreover, it really simplifies the whole issue of rights within just a paragraph, too, which makes it easy to reference. ;)

Good job, and keep it up.


-- Brede

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Friday, May 11, 2007 - 6:45amSanction this postReply
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Thanks Bridget!!!

I appreciate your comments.

I will keep trying to refine and expand my thinking on these issues.

Ed

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Sunday, June 3, 2007 - 8:51pmSanction this postReply
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Ed,

I admire the attempt at such an in depth analysis. There is too much here for me to address piecemeal. But I would offer this suggestion. Consider the development of human society through time. such realities as the family and the individual have always existed and are ontologically and socially prior to such things as the market. Yet in your diagram you have the family as a derivative branch, of equal status to, say, churches, while the market, an institution which in most understandings postdates religion, and certainly postdates the family, occupies an intermediate position. I'd suggest you analyze your chart from an evolutionary/developmental perspective.

Ted

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Monday, June 25, 2007 - 5:23amSanction this postReply
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Thank you Ted for your suggestion. That makes sense and I will look into it.

Take care.

Ed

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