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Monday, July 18, 2005 - 6:42pmSanction this postReply
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Rick - Yes, gold's value is what it SHOULD be as a commodity, not what it would artificially be were we to adopt a rigid gold standard.  The flexibility of free exchange of currencies has greatly enhanced free trade amongst nations.  It seems to me that the global economy AFTER the dropping of the gold standard has been a hell of a lot stronger than it was before.  You still need sound fiscal policy, of course, but just having gold didn't help the Spanish.

When you search the net, who do you find talking about Gold Standards?  Mostly, anarchists and conspiracy theorists.  Not good company to keep.  I consider Rothbard the former.  I see no serious, modern economist who advocates it.


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Monday, July 18, 2005 - 7:03pmSanction this postReply
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I am now focused on the economic distortion of using a rare commodity to represent all the world's wealth, and whether it makes such use impractical/undesirable. Obviously the 1 pound example is extreme, but I can't tell where you get off the slippery slope. Is there a certain mass where you can just say the economic distortions are minor enough not to matter? How would it be determined?

Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold, there is 20m cubed of Au extracted in the world. Your physical traits figures are correct (troy ounces), 20m means (2/3)^3 of your figure for mass, so roughly 1/3.3 times as much. Per http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/hist/h6hist1.txt, US M3 is roughly $9.8T. I don't know if that's the best of myriad ways to measure money supply, but I don't know of one better offhand. I've read (long ago, no link) that US accounts for 15-25% of the wealth in the world.

So depending on the figures SWAG world money supply now at $39T-$65T, and value representable by all gold in the world at current spot price as $2T-$7T. If 100% gold backed currency were adopted worldwide, I'd expect gold to acquire roughly 10 times the buying power (in goods and services, assuming dollars are gone) that it has now. That's certainly not enough that people are going to harvest moon dust or create gold atomically, but it does seem like it would lead to immense new investment in producing more gold. Do you expect the economic effects of say an order of magnitude difference to not be enough of a concern to worry about when moving to commodity backing for currency?


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Monday, July 18, 2005 - 7:29pmSanction this postReply
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Aaron:

I'll accept your figures as you have evidently researched this. Suppose that the buying power of gold was 10 times what it is now. All distortions would be gone out of international trade and capital would be able to flow where it could be most efficiently used (if trade barriers were dropped, of course). Governments would not be able to manipulate the currency for political reasons and special interests. No instant devaluations of currencies that lead to political and economic chaos.

Of course there would be big investments in gold mining but the yearly increase in new gold entering the pool would be a very small percentage.

Sam


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Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 6:35amSanction this postReply
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Kurt:

"Yes, gold's value is what it SHOULD be as a commodity, not what it would artificially be were we to adopt a rigid gold standard."

That sentence is incoherent. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

"The flexibility of free exchange of currencies has greatly enhanced free trade amongst nations."

You can drop the "of currencies" and have a more significant statement.

Your attempted Argumentum ad Populum is noted.

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