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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 8:34amSanction this postReply
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In every modern democratic society, the freedom to practice and propagate one's religion is considered to be a fundamental right.

In a rational society, founded on, say, Randian principles, not necessarily democratic, should it be so? Since religion is based on blind faith and hence on the explicit rejection of reason, wouldn't the acceptance of religious freedom as a fundamental right imply unreason as equally acceptable? Would it not be a contradiction?


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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 8:55amSanction this postReply
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No, Coalton Trail, it's not a contradiction. If a man owns his own life, his own body, and his own mind, then not only does he have to be free to think, but he has to be free to refuse to think as well. Ownership of one's mind cuts both ways.

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 8:58amSanction this postReply
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Hi coaltontrail

Much as some would like a hypothetical Objectivist government to stamp out subjectivism, skepticism, altruism, etc., in its citizens, the legal is not the moral.  So, just because someone is doing something unconscionably immoral like converting people to some religion, so long said conversion is voluntary, the government would be powerless to stop such a thing, since preventing the violation of individual rights is all that the government could do.

I suppose one could try to argue that since a religion is ultimately detrimental to one's life, such a conversion would be an initiation of force.  But I believe this to be a mistake, since under this argument, this Objectivist government would have to ban smoking, drinking, and other such activities with adverse physical effects.  Best leave it to each individual as to whether drinking, smoking, religion, or any other harmful practice will ultimately improve that individual's life.

Nate T.


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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 11:19amSanction this postReply
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Besides, if you make religion illegal, how would you enforce such a ban? The Soviets tried, and all they could do was force the Russian Orthodox Church underground. You can't force people to be free, and you can't force them to be rational.

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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 11:38amSanction this postReply
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People have the right to think and act on their thoughts.  This logically entails the right to be wrong.


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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 1:21pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you for the responses. I see the arguments.

coaltontrail





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Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 2:30pmSanction this postReply
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No problem. When in doubt, just remember what Denis Leary said as the character Edgar Friendly in Demolition Man: "You can't take away peoples' rights to be assholes."

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Friday, July 16, 2004 - 8:34pmSanction this postReply
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Matthew,

I loved your comments... you are wise like Yoda.


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