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Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 11:28amSanction this postReply
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Would that the cigar had been post coital. As it was, I hadnt smoked in ten years and made this fact public by several minutes of paroxysms and chest pains. I am too old for experiments in regression. The libations were another story. Having given up drinking in misguided sobriety years ago, the first sip of wine was heaven. Several glasses later I was expounding on relationships and life when, in between the veritable genius of my insight, I looked around at my friends. I had not seen them in years. And yet sitting there, it seemed as if we had never parted. That we were even together at this point, was a stroke of good fortune. It almost didn’t happen. In the wake of a messy divorce, and an even messier second attempt at marriage, we had parted ways seven years prior. In some way, the easy collegiality and natural friendship had been clouded not by reason but rationality. The more I applied rational to the equation, the more I had convinced myself that we *should not* be friends. I was after all, informed by aristotlean/objectivist philosophy. They were not. I was, any way you cut it, the enlightened one. An air of superiority can suck the life out of any party. The truth (arrived at by reason and not rationality) was on the other side of the mirror. In a serious dishonesty with self, I was, simply, ashamed. I looked at the world through a finely tuned sense of morality and judgement. It must be that they did the same, Then in struck me that it wasn’t their judgement I had to be concerned about. It was my own. So far had I fallen from, and failed to be, the *ideal man*! Hiding behind objectivism, I had culled my life of that which gave me pleasure, these friends. Imagine my surprise to feel pleasure in their company. It turns out I had judged myself more harshly than anyone else. Their friendship was a value. Their friendship enriched me. Being with them was an entirely selfish and beautiful thing. Like the wine I held in my hand, too young, not expensive, but in a very real sense, satisfying.

To any who care to comment, who are your friends? And why? Has anyone experienced a challenge keeping or making friends or lovers who share different philosophies of life?

John



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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 6:17amSanction this postReply
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As important as friends may be, I have discovered that as I am getting older, the less I want to be amongst people.  I absolutely adore my own company.  I suppose my thirst for knowledge has expanded into a passion for global awareness.  I am plagued with thoughts and opinions of international politics and events.  Indeed, it is all too often that I can switch out the light but not my mind.  I have always found it difficult to relate to my friends in conversations of an intellectual matter.  The main reason is my thoughts and opinions are always against popular consensus.  It can be tough out there when you are always on the opposite side of the table and I feel so frustrated sometimes at what I consider to be shallow arguments of generalisation and 30 second visual bites of media hype.  I struggle to respect people who have religious beliefs and to be honest, they irritate me.
I try to stand up for everything I believe in and boycott everything I don't.  This in turn makes me an oddball.
For example, it is my opinion that superstars and celebrities feed from those who humble their own achievements, hence I have not the slightest interest of who is who.  I vehemently refuse to pay money to see a Hollywood generated movie made to a successful money making formula.  (The last movie I ever saw was the Blair Witch Hunt Project.   I would gladly pay to see an independent film made with a small budget and I thought it was tremendous).  So life with my friends has been wonderful, however communication has been limited.  To be critical of myself, I can be unsympathetic at times and I am always completely up-front.  So many little games people play and I will not run with the sheep in sympathy. Not having a university education, I have always been thirsty for challenging conversation and concepts.  Fortunately for me I found the right partner.  We share common opinions and views.  We feed off each other and take great delight in lengthy conversations after hours.  Luckily for us that we have found each other, because we are yet to meet people with like-minded views.  That said, I must say that finding this Forum has been a wonderful breath of fresh air.  I have been steadily reading through the site and it is a wonderful feeling to be waist deep in such a delicious quagmire of ponderance.


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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 12:32pmSanction this postReply
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"To any who care to comment, who are your friends? And why? Has anyone experienced a challenge keeping or making friends or lovers who share different philosophies of life?

John"

John, I know exactly what you mean. I, too, have hidden behind Objectivism and rationality, instead of looking at my own reasons for being with people. Fortunately, I realized this before it was too late, but alienated one person that it is difficult to forgive myself. So much for being an "enlightened one." But what keeps me going is the idea that it was a life lesson, and the next stage is to remember what I have learned, reinforced by the sting of loss of a soul mate, and use that in dealing with those of different philosophies.


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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 8:36amSanction this postReply
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Joe, hello. It is a learning/living process isn't it? I don't make friends easily. Less so as I get older. I would like to think though, that my choices are better informed, and more congruent with my values.

John

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 8:56amSanction this postReply
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I understand, John. Some of us have to learn the hard way. :)

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 9:42amSanction this postReply
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Joe, so right you are! There are many mistakes, errors of judgement, impulsive actions in my past and I think there will be *some* (ha!) yet to come.

John

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 2:10pmSanction this postReply
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John:

I almost didn't read your post because of its lack of white spaces -- you should use to use the return key!

But I am very pleased that I did. You are exactly right and mirror my thoughts intensely.

I cannot add to it. Well done.

David

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