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Post 40

Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 8:01amSanction this postReply
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The more relevant inquiry is not whether you and Robert can agree on a definition for "terrorist." It is that the definition is fluid enough that THE GOVERNMENT is essentially unfettered in its ability to ignore Constitutional limitations of government power.

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Post 41

Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 9:07amSanction this postReply
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Robert Davison wrote:
But as Ayn Rand memorably said at a party I attended in 1962, in response to complaints that "taxes are too high" (then 20%), "Pay 80% if you need it for defense." It is not the amount but the purpose served that decides what is "too much.
Scott DeSalvo commented:
Rand was mistaken, if she said 80% compulsory taxation was moral.
Joe Maurone commented:
Just as Rand believed in a voluntary military, she couldn't have meant that quote literally. If she was against conscription, she had to be against coerced taxation for military defense.
If I recall correctly, Rand's 1962 comment came before she had reached the conclusion that conscription was immoral, in fact probably before she had concluded that taxes were immoral. Prior to her "government financing" essay (in VOS) and her Vietnam essay (in CUI), she most likely held the traditional individualist conservative view of taxes, to wit, "Millions for defense, not a dime for tribute."

As for linking her view on conscription to her view on coerced taxation, Joe is technically, logically correct. However, just as one should be more opposed to unjust capital punishment or incarceration than to unjust fining, or to kidnapping/slavery than to robbery, for the same reason one should be more opposed to conscription than to taxation -- for the simple reason that the former (in each case) is more likely to get one killed, for which there can be no remediation.

Best to all,
REB


Post 42

Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 5:02pmSanction this postReply
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Actually Rand spoke out against conscription even earlier, in the Playboy interview, taped in 1963.  This falls so neatly out of her upstream theories that I expect she understood it much earlier than that.  The burden of proof is on the one who claims that she thought otherwise until the sixties.
As for the taxes remark, you could as easily take it as keeping the two questions separate (How should we pay for government?  What should it do?) as you could call it an inconsistency.

Peter


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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 5:12pmSanction this postReply
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PS to previous: she was a Robert Taft fan in the 40s, so the rebuttable presumption would be that she shared his opposition to the draft.

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