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Friday, November 13 - 2:45pmSanction this postReply
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Attempted Theft of the U.S. Presidency

 

The Ayn Rand Institute’s chairman of the board, Yaron Brook, is unconcerned.



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Monday, November 16 - 7:44amSanction this postReply
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Given the forthcoming "Great Reset" the World Economic wants to jam down our throats, dark and powerful people in high and shadowy places have every reason to steal this election.

 

Is Yaron Brook a Mossad infiltrator?



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Monday, November 16 - 9:13amSanction this postReply
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How, exactly, did they steal the election?

 

What is taking us down the road of increasing statism is not some powerful, dark, shadowy conspiracy but widely held bad ideas.  The Republicans hold these bad ideas too; the Democrats are just more consistent.



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Monday, November 16 - 10:02amSanction this postReply
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I accidentally smart phone fat-fingered a red check sanction on Doug's Post 2, so don't get too cocky.

 

Read the many links Mark posted in the linked article of the initial post of this thread and then come back and share with us why you think there was no voter fraud favoring Biden over Trump.

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/16, 10:11am)



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Monday, November 16 - 4:23pmSanction this postReply
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I looked at a few of the links and found them unconvincing.  A few points:  There are legitimate reasons why counting ballots takes so long, among them actions by Republican legislators preventing a head start in counting mail-in and early ballots.  Covid-19 is real.  One reason Trump lost votes is that he has obvious serious flaws.  Another is that a lot of voters agree with the Democrats' bad ideas and/or want a cut of the loot.

 

I don't have time to thoroughly explore your rabbit hole.



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Saturday, November 28 - 8:21pmSanction this postReply
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Straw-man caricature rhetoric like Doug's "some powerful, dark, shadowy conspiracy" aside, there is indeed a consensus among financially powerful one-world globalists. They do want to take us down the road of statism. Rand recognized this and it is even more true today.

 

Ballot counting-time is not an issue. One time-related issue is the overnight counting-pause in the swing states after which a Trump lead suddenly switched to a Biden lead. Covid being real, sort of, is irrelevant to the switch. Trump's flaws as president are irrelevant. That some voters opted for Biden is irrelevant.

 

Doug says he didn't have time to read much of the election-theft side of the story yet he smears the idea that there was massive fraud as a "rabbit hole" -- as in Alice in Wonderland.

 

The easiest way to see that something is wrong is to look at Georgia. You can do it while sitting in your armchair, no investigative reporting required. Enough redneck, gun-loving, white Georgians are supposed to have voted for the leftist creeps Biden and Kamala, who hate their guts, so that their vote along with Blacks (about 90% voted socialist, as usual) gave victory to the creeps? Despite the reverse in 2016? Despite the reverse in South Carolina to the north and Florida to the south? I would question the official count on that alone.



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Sunday, November 29 - 7:47amSanction this postReply
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AWAKEN!

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/29, 9:50am)



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Sunday, November 29 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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All of my points were relevant to the post I was replying to.

 

Trump and his people have not presented any actual evidence of fraud.

 

I am a white Georgian and know some others.  None of us are rednecks.  At most a few have strong pro-gun feelings.

 

There are various things that could have changed the vote totals this time.  Among them:  People have moved to Georgia.  (States vary in how many people of what sort have moved to them.)  Trump's flaws have become more apparent.  Trump bungled Covid-19.  Biden does not inspire as much hatred as Clinton did.  The BLM movement has energized people.  Adjustments due to the pandemic have made it easier to vote, increasing turnout.

 

Ayn Rand was also scornful of people who attach too much importance to conspiracies.



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Sunday, November 29 - 8:00amSanction this postReply
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Ayn Rand emphasized bad ideas as causing our problems.

 

Can you cite a reference where she spoke of "a consensus among financially powerful one-world globalists"?



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Sunday, November 29 - 8:16amSanction this postReply
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A quick Google search revealed two fact-check articles that debunk your claim about a night-time pause.

 

The reason totals seeming to favor Trump switched to totals favoring Biden is that mail-in ballots took longer to count than in-person ballots, and the mail-in ballots heavily favored Biden.



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Sunday, November 29 - 8:32amSanction this postReply
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Biden got a bigger percentage of the vote than Clinton in Florida, South Carolina, and North Carolina.  Not by enough to flip those states, but enough to show the shift away from Trump was not limited to Georgia.



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Sunday, November 29 - 8:55amSanction this postReply
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Trump has to convince at least himself he really won to prop up his pseudo-self-esteem.



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Sunday, November 29 - 4:25pmSanction this postReply
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Websites can call an article anything, like "fact-check."

 

Some of the links at the end of my article address the switch.

 

Latest news:

First you see it.

Now you don't.

I'm just a tad curious why?



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Monday, November 30 - 9:36amSanction this postReply
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Which ones?



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Monday, November 30 - 8:01pmSanction this postReply
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"Dummy up" is Doug's modus operandi.  He can't be bothered to read even the titles of articles.



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Monday, November 30 - 8:03pmSanction this postReply
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The U.S. election fraud is being reported in Britain:

 

Nine reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling



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Wednesday, December 2 - 8:44amSanction this postReply
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Everyone who has seen the efficient, almost military organization of the agitators’ program has a reasonable basis for believing that skilled personnel and money are being dispatched into the Berkeley battle.... Around the Berkeley community a dozen “ad hoc committees to support” this or that element of the student revolt sprang up spontaneously, as though out of nowhere.

"The Cashing-In: The Student 'Rebellion'" in Return of the Primitive by Ayn Rand

 

So, yes, our lady considered such speculation about conspiracy quite reasonable.

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 12/02, 10:45am)



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Wednesday, December 2 - 9:23amSanction this postReply
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The courts keep finding that Trump's allegations of fraud lack evidence to back them up.  If there is genuine evidence of fraud, let it be presented in court.



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Wednesday, December 2 - 9:28amSanction this postReply
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There was plenty of direct evidence that massive demonstrations were happening in Berkeley and that many demonstrators committed a substantial amount of physical aggression.

 

Trump and his people have not been able to present any evidence of election fraud that the courts find convincing.



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Wednesday, December 2 - 10:50amSanction this postReply
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What to Know About Litigation Being Waged Across U.S. to Preserve Trump Presidency

 

While knowing who won a presidential election usually doesn’t take this long, it isn’t unprecedented if it does. Think back to Bush v. Gore. There, the race between Texas Gov. George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore wasn’t decided until December, when the U.S. Supreme Court stepped in to end any further vote recounts in Florida because of the mistakes made by state courts and election officials.

 

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Two things should be kept in mind.

 

First, gathering the evidence of misconduct, fraud, and other problems that may have compromised an election is extremely difficult and expensive. As an Indiana state court pointed out in an election fraud case in 2004, “the time constraints that govern election contests, primarily designed to serve important interests and needs of election officials and the public interest in finality, simply do not work well in those elections where misconduct” is widespread and multifaceted.

 

Second, courts are usually very reluctant to overturn election results even with substantial evidence of possible problems that raise questions about the legitimacy of the outcome. Thus, no matter what the merits are of the claims being made by the Trump campaign, they face an uphill battle in the courts.

 

As part of its overall global domination strategy over coming generations, China has a stake in assuring a Biden presidency not only for immediate renewal of its former economic benefits, but also to assure forced vaccination to sterilize Western women, at least according to this article that argues convincingly that the proposed vaccine formula will do just that.  Within a generation, birth rates of occupants of Western lands will drop to near zero, allowing easy migration of Chinese persons and ownership to those lands with little resistance.  I put nothing past the Chinese Communist Party.

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 12/02, 1:35pm)



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