| | I logged out at post 5, being sickened by the matter. I return a day later, and "whoa!", the same execrable argument is being propounded here, now, and positively!
Thanks and sanctions to MSK, Robert B., Pete, Aaron and others who have preserved their sanity. Fantastic replies.
I'll try to add my own input without psychologizing the possible motives of those who have posted in support of Dr. Brook. It simply gives reason for this thread to be side-tracked on non-essentials.
I'd rather wipe out an entire nation of terrorists and those who support them directly or implicitly (by doing nothing) than lose one American soldier's life. Is there actually a nation that consists entirely of terrorists. How nice of them to huddle up all in one place. Unfortunately, this is not reality.Btw, so-called nations led by despots have no right to existence and, in fact, should be wiped out within seconds of coming into being because they pose a potential threat to American citizens just as surely as a murderer on the loose in our own country does. So the moment a ragtag military junta takes control of a country, it should be nuked? Along with all the other people in that country whose only fault is to be caught standing on the wrong side of the border?
Please realize how desperately dictators try to cling to their "citizens". Such people who try to escape are brought to firing squads. Click here if you don't believe it. This is common to all dictatorships. Remember, these looters need the good people to survive. Meanwhile, China, North Korea, Syria, Pakistan, Iran, Libya and others need to be on our immediate raze list -- nonobjectivist public opinion be fucking damned! The United States is not the only country with nuclear weapons. Can you imagine China Communist hardliners making similar arguments? "Well dear Party Secretary General, this Taiwan problem is pesky. They are actually converting our proletariat with their capitalist rhetoric. Hey! We can solve this problem by simply nuking the island! Not one Red soldier lost! Does this not appeal to your sense of efficiency Secretary General?"
That is how hotheads (from both sides) manage to:
1) escalate a lesser war to a greater war 2) make a war where one doesn't exist 3) kill so many people who were just minding their own business
This is true from modern nation-states to tribal people. Read Chagnon's Yanomami: The Fierce People, for a scientist's insight on how humans justify initiating and aggravating war.
Perhaps, there is too much attention given to this. In Pete's words, objectivism could already be in "the fringe" of philosophical ideas (with representatives like Dr. Brook, it's no surprise). It would be presumptious to assume that the US administration would actually give serious hearing of these views. It's lunacy.
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Neil P., thanks for the notice on the new pope. What I did mean to indicate is that it would still reduce his 'moral standing' in the eyes of many Catholics, weakening the Vatican.
Nature L.,your post [46] on nuclear weapons was spot on. ___________________________
This post is already too long. You people sure type fast!
(Edited by num++ on 4/28, 11:33am)
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