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Friday, November 25, 2005 - 7:46amSanction this postReply
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On Monday, November 21, the speech I gave at one of my Toastmasters clubs was about the Pilgrim's rejection of communism. The audio of the speech is available at http://monday6o.org/audio/m6o-051121-pasotto.mp3.

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Friday, November 25, 2005 - 8:16amSanction this postReply
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Rick, I want to link to that from the SOLO Toastmasters page.  Which speech project and manual did it fulfill?

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Friday, November 25, 2005 - 9:52pmSanction this postReply
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I've read the account of communism failing at Plymouth before. I went to www.snopes.com to see if it was a myth, but didn't find any refutation.

I did find some other amusing articles:

The Good Napkins

My mother taught me to read when I was four years old (her first mistake).

One day, I was in the bathroom and noticed one of the cabinet doors was ajar. I read the box in the cabinet. I then asked my mother why she was keeping 'napkins' in the bathroom. Didn't they belong in the kitchen?

Not wanting to burden me with unnecessary facts, she told me that those were for "special occasions."

Now fast forward a few months .... It's Thanksgiving Day, and my folks are leaving to pick up the pastor and his wife for dinner. Mom had assignments for all of us while they were gone. Mine was to set the table.

When they returned, the pastor came in first and immediately burst into laughter. Next came his wife who gasped, then began giggling. Next came my father, who roared with laughter. Then came Mom, who almost died of embarrassment when she saw each place setting on the table with a "special occasion" napkin at each plate, with the fork carefully arranged on top. I had even tucked the little tails in so they didn't hang off the edge!!

My mother asked me why I used these and, of course, my response sent the other adults into further fits of laughter.

"But, Mom, you SAID they were for special occasions!"


A man goes out drinking on Thanksgiving Day, comes home tipsy, and falls asleep on the sofa, the fly of his trousers open. His teenaged sons come in a while later and decide to play a prank on Dad. They get a turkey neck out of the refrigerator and leave it dangling from his fly and go upstairs for the night.

At first light, Mom comes downstairs to find the family cat noisily munching on the turkey neck protruding from her husband's fly. She faints.

[Smith, 1983]

Two friends one night had the unenviable pleasure of assisting a third, in a very drunken state, home from the pub. By the time they reached his house he was in a collapsed state so, without waking his wife, they laid him down on the sofa to sleep it off. On the way out through the kitchen one of the friends noticed a bowl of turkey giblets and, as they were rather put out by the companion's regular drunken antics, they decided to play a practical joke on him. They took the cooked turkey neck, opened the sleeper's flies and zipped them up again with the turkey neck hanging out.

In the morning the wife of the drunken sleeper came downstairs to see where her husband had collapsed to sleep off the previous night's excesses. Imagine her dismay when she was greeted with the sight of the cat, sitting on her husband's chest chewing merrily on what she imagined to be his penis. At this point the practical joke began to backfire for, in her shocked state, the wife fainted, fell down the stairs and broke her leg.


(ROTFLMAO) Oh the Horror, the horror!

Scott

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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 4:48amSanction this postReply
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Scott, the story is real.  Read Of Plymouth Plantation by William Bradford to get the full first-hand account from the leader who made the change:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0075542811/103-9621387-8446242?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance

What I recalled most about the story is how the old collectivist farming methods bred excuses of disability from many more people, especially the women and children, than did the much more accountable family farming.  After the switch, the women went willingly into the fields to plant corn and brought the children with them to help.  Now that is my kind of "affirmative action"!


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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 3:45pmSanction this postReply
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Anyone know of any accounts from Israel's Kibbutz (sp?)? I saw some portion of a show on TV (Steve somethings travels on PBS) where he mentioned Israels communist Kibbutz being great for the young and old, but awfull for the young men.

Scott

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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 4:56pmSanction this postReply
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I vaguely recalled Michelle Cohen posting on SOLO that more and more parents are opting out of the kibbutz system.  I did a a site search here to see what I could find and located this:

http://solohq.com/cgi-bin/SHQ/SHQ_FirstUnread.cgi?Function=FirstUnread&Board=2&Thread=848#0

She says in that post that the kibbutz "today is all but extinct."


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 9:50amSanction this postReply
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I'm not surprised. There's no real reason to work if you only get part of what you worked for. Sort of defeats the purpose.

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 6:24pmSanction this postReply
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I've read the story before but it was enjoyable to read it again. Thanks, Jeff. Some lessons are worth repeating -- indeed, every year.


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