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Monday, February 15, 2010 - 3:02pmSanction this postReply
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Note that the excerpt Ted kept in the post was part of an extended quote the author was responding to, and not the words of the author himself.

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Monday, February 15, 2010 - 3:37pmSanction this postReply
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I read the excerpt and thought, "what the hell....?"  

If Ted hoped it would get people to click the link, it worked.  


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Monday, February 15, 2010 - 5:32pmSanction this postReply
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No, I didn't realize that it was a quote after the first paragraph. (I blame formatting errors when I read it in Netscape, whether that is actually the reason for my confusion or not.) If either of you could either edit it to read "New Republic's Ed Kilgore: The Rise of Rand and Racism..." that would be nice, or just delete the gallery I will resubmit it.

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Monday, February 15, 2010 - 5:49pmSanction this postReply
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Edit the excerpt to read: "New Republic's Ed Kilgore: The Rise of Rand and Racism..."

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Monday, February 15, 2010 - 6:44pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, the title of the thread.

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 2:05pmSanction this postReply
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Done. The thread name is not so easy to change, unfortunately.

The mistake was easy to make, given the formatting.

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 2:45pmSanction this postReply
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Well, at least if someone clicks on it now they will see both the corrected title and my chagrin at having so badly maligned Welch.

Here is the beginning of Ed Kilgore's article at the New Republic:

It's You, Not Me
Liberals and libertarians finally break up.

One mini-saga of the past decade in American politics has been the flirtation—with talk of a deeper partnership—between progressives and libertarians. These two groups were driven together, in the main, by common hostility to huge chunks of the Bush administration's agenda: endless, pointless wars; assaults on civil liberties; cynical vote-buying with federal dollars; and statist panders to the Christian right.

This cooperation reached its height during the 2006 election, in which, according to a new study by David Kirby and David Boaz, nearly half of libertarian voters supported Democratic congressional candidates—more than doubling the support levels from the previous midterm election in 2002. (As Jonathan Chait noted after the first Kirby/Boaz study of libertarian voting, their definition is overly broad, encompassing 14 percent of the electorate.) At the time, left-wing blogger Markos Moulitsas hailed the influx of "libertarian democrats" into the Democratic coalition. Soon, even the Cato Institute's Brink Lindsey was proposing a permanent alliance of what he called "liberaltarians."


It is interesting to note that one of the prime advocates of that alliance was Leonard "If you understand Objectivism you'll vote Democrat" Peikoff. It would be interesting to know what Peikoff's thoughts are on whether electing Obama was worth it. (At least at this point Peikoff could point to the failure of Obama's post-stimulus domestic agenda as mitigating his foreign policy and court appointees.) It is interesting to note that Peikoff has explicitly adopted a policy of public silence on "practical politics" in his podcasts.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 7:37amSanction this postReply
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Kilgore's talk of a left-libertarian "alliance" was always an overstatement.  What Kirby and Boaz say is that certain voters' scores on a checklist of political attitudes - e.g. yes to both tax cuts and abortion rights - qualify them as libertarians; these voters went for previous Democratic candidates more than they went for Obama.  K&B emphasize that these voters do not have strong party loyalties and don't usually identify themselves as libertarians.  "Alliance" suggests a deliberate organization, which was never there.

On the other hand, if Kilgore is glad to see people no longer voting Democratic, he must be a very happy guy these days.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 10:35amSanction this postReply
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Liberals and libertarians agree on a handful of issues, often for vastly different reasons. While they might, for strategic reasons, work together on some very narrow specific mutual goals, any attempt to make a broad permanent alliance between hardcore statists and their ideological opposites is doomed from the start.

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