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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 3:10pmSanction this postReply
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I don't understand the injunction to "remember, we are not discussing something Ayn Rand had written here..."

What difference would the subject of the criticism make with respect to the legitimacy of abiding honest criticism? Whether a person should remain on the ARI board in the wake of such criticisms would depend on the manner in which the criticisms were made and the substance of them.

I think we can all concede ARI's formal right to set whatever policies as an organization it wishes. Has this been disputed? But the issue is whether behaving like scared-rabbit cultists make any sense for an organization whose alleged raison d'etre is the promotion of individualism and reason.

Peikoff, for his part, is being willfully irrational, and overtly contemptuous of anyone who could desire anything even remotely resembling an intelligible, appropriate reason for his push to oust McCaskey from the board. He as much as concedes that he couldn't care less about the substance of McCaskey's criticisms. Even after Peikoff's "explanatory" memo, we don't know anything about what makes those criticisms beyond the pale.

Peikoff asserts that "reality obviously hasn't helped" anybody who still scratches his head at Peikoff's whim-worshiping conduct. This is true enough, I suppose. I haven't received any memos from "reality" telling me exactly why Peikoff is being so blatantly unreasonable, and even anti-reasonable, in his public posturing about McCaskey and the controversy over Peikoff's tantrums.

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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 10:00pmSanction this postReply
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I don't understand the injunction to "remember, we are not discussing something Ayn Rand had written here..."

What difference would the subject of the criticism make with respect to the legitimacy of abiding honest criticism? Whether a person should remain on the ARI board in the wake of such criticisms would depend on the manner in which the criticisms were made and the substance of them.
Well, if McCaskey were making a public criticism of something Ayn Rand had written -- if he were taking exception to her explicitly enunciated philosophy -- then it would be a lot more plausible for Peikoff to object to his presence on the Board of Directors of the Ayn Rand Institute. But what McCaskey is criticizing is simply a minor part a book that was written by one of her followers, which may or may not be consistent with Rand's views. The fact that it is consistent with Peikoff's is irrelevant. Peikoff is not Rand. The fact that he claims to be her "intellectual heir" does not mean that anything he supports is something that Rand would have supported. It does not mean that he is Ayn Rand by proxy when speaking on behalf of her philosophy.


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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 4:41pmSanction this postReply
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"Well, if McCaskey were making a public criticism of something Ayn Rand had written -- if he were taking exception to her explicitly enunciated philosophy -- then it would be a lot more plausible for Peikoff to object to his presence on the Board of Directors of the Ayn Rand Institute."

Regardless of the content of the criticism and the manner in which it was made? Why?

By "plausible" do you mean "justified"? Everything Peikoff has said and done vis-a-vis McCaskey is plausible to me in terms of the type of person Peikoff has demonstrated himself to be over the years.

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 4:49pmSanction this postReply
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Please take me off moderation, O Powers that Be. I should never have been restricted in that way to begin with. It all had to do with a parody I wrote some years ago of Diana Hseih's vicious screed against Chris Sciabarra, a mode of discourse which one of your clerks apparently disliked. When I didn't cooperate with his attempt to mandate the nature of my participation in the dialogue, your petty functionary tossed me into moderated status.

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 5:11pmSanction this postReply
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Evelyn, I'm so sorry, I have no idea why you're sitting in moderation, or what happened.

Can Evelyn have her moderation free posting privileges restored, please?


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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:00pmSanction this postReply
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I wrote, "Well, if McCaskey were making a public criticism of something Ayn Rand had written -- if he were taking exception to her explicitly enunciated philosophy -- then it would be a lot more plausible for Peikoff to object to his presence on the Board of Directors of the Ayn Rand Institute."

Evelyn replied,
Regardless of the content of the criticism and the manner in which it was made? Why?
Well, look, the Ayn Rand Institute is promoting her philosophy. They obviously agree with it, or they wouldn't be promoting it. So why would you expect Peikoff to agree with something that's at odds with Rand's philosophy, even if you thought it was justified and even if, in the final analysis, it was justified.
By "plausible" do you mean "justified"?
I mean "sensible" or "understandable," given his commitment to Objectivism.


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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:13pmSanction this postReply
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Teresa wrote: "Evelyn, I'm so sorry, I have no idea why you're sitting in moderation, or what happened. Can Evelyn have her moderation free posting privileges restored, please?"

Thanks. You were a participant in the thread at the time, but the muzzlemeister was a fellow named Ethan Dawe.

http://rebirthofreason.com/Forum/Dissent/0066_5.shtml

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:34pmSanction this postReply
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Dwyer writes: "Well, look, the Ayn Rand Institute is promoting her philosophy. They obviously agree with it, or they wouldn't be promoting it. So why would you expect Peikoff to agree with something that's at odds with Rand's philosophy, even if you thought it was justified and even if, in the final analysis, it was justified."

I thought it was self-evident that disagreeing with a criticism and acting to kick somebody off a board of directors need not necessarily be coextensive actions. And why would a criticism of Rand's work necessarily have to be "at odds with Rand's philosophy"? As I tried to say, whether a public criticism of Rand's work would be boot-out-worthy would depend, on a common sense basis, on what the criticism is and how it is made. But that's only if the organization devoted to promoting her philosophy of reason and justice were operating reasonably, of course. Wouldn't there be a difference between, say, publishing a technical paper on Rand's theory of measurement omission and taking issue with her explication of its role in concept formation, and, on the other hand, announcing that after much mulling you have concluded that socialism is the proper social system, altruism the best ethic, and subjectivism the best means of knowledge?

I would certainly concede that Peikoff's most recent frothings and ARI's humble obeisance to them demonstrate that reasonableness is not a very hefty desideratum among ARI top brass.

But the problem is not only that Peikoff, or ARI officers, are being inconsistent with respect to some of their own mistaken and sometimes arbitrary assumptions and policies, but that they are arbitrary and mistaken. Peikoff's current emotionalist conduct was critiqued by Kelley 20 years ago. Some of those watching the unfolding of the McCaskey brouhaha re-read Kelley's Truth and Toleration.

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 3:14amSanction this postReply
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Ethan and I disagree over things to this day, but I don't have moderation power (probably a wise move.) 

You can write to the owner, Joe Rowlands, state your case, and ask to be taken off moderation. I, for one, support the moderation removal from your account, Evelyn.


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Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 4:25pmSanction this postReply
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Returning to the original subject of this thread: Last Saturday (November 20th), the Hsieh’s posted their “Closing Thoughts on ARI, Peikoff and McCaskey." http://blog.dianahsieh.com/

Here I cite a few of their remarks and add some comments of my own. They write as follows:
[G]iven ARI's position that The Logical Leap is a "major ARI project" on which they must take "one consistent position", then it makes sense that McCaskey's criticisms of the book constituted a conflict of interest incompatible with his serving on the ARI Board. . . .

As an explanation of our earlier views, I (Paul) have served on the Board of Directors of a corporation -- namely, my own medical practice. . . .

As part of [our Board’s] conflict of interest policy, board members of my practice cannot undermine or criticize major board decisions once made -- such as opening a new branch office or signing a new hospital contract. In other words, the group has a "one consistent position" policy on such major issues, much like ARI. Board members are expected to freely debate such issues as part of the process of arriving at a decision. But once the board has made its decision, individual board members are expected to support it publicly, or at least keep their disagreements private.
But later in his post, Paul writes:
We were troubled that so many online arguments were premised on false factual claims -- for instance, that McCaskey published his Amazon review before resigning from ARI's Board.
If McCaskey published his Amazon review after resigning from ARI’s Board, then on what basis did Peikoff object to his remaining on the Board in the first place? Was it based on Peikoff’s judgment of McCaskey as "an obnoxious braggart" and "a pretentious ignoramus”? This kind of emotionally charged insult is at best a dubious appraisal of McCaskey’s personality, which Peikoff evidently tolerated over a long period of time. It does not qualify as an accusation of immoral behavior, so how it would justify Peikoff’s suddenly coming to denounce McCaskey as unfit to remain on the Board is unclear?

In fact, the Hsieh’s disagree strongly with Peikoff’s characterization. They write,
We regard that as a serious misjudgment of McCaskey. In the seven years we've known him, McCaskey has always acted as a gentleman and a scholar. Similarly, we still regard Peikoff's earlier characterizations of McCaskey's actions and views as unfathomable.
So, I still don’t see how Peikoff's actions make sense. They strike me as a bizarre and (dare I say) irrational way to treat another very close philosophical ally over a sincere and rather minor disagreement.


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Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 11:50amSanction this postReply
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Bill,

So, I still don’t see how Peikoff's actions make sense. They strike me as a bizarre and (dare I say) irrational way to treat another very close philosophical ally over a sincere and rather minor disagreement.
Well, the answer is right there in front of our eyes, then. Either Peikoff doesn't think McCaskey's disagreement is "sincere" or he doesn't think that McCaskey's disagreement is "minor."

I think that McCaskey's disagreement is both minor and unintelligent. Take the idea McCaskey promotes that Newton didn't understand the concept of "mass" (but, instead, relied on Buridan's view of "impetus" to explain momentum, and its consvervation: inertia). Either Peikoff disagrees with me about how it is that pedantic arguing about whether Newton understood the concept of "mass", while he went ahead and formulated laws of motion which specifically use that concept intelligently, is really a very minor point of contention -- or Peikoff thinks it's an insincere point of contention.

Ed


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