Rebirth of Reason

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 5:15amSanction this postReply

Two points I'm missing in his argument:

- Socialism is not seductive because it gives free hand-outs but because nobody asks where the free hand-out comes from, who is really giving it ... and most importantly they don't ask why should those who give without receiving a benefit in return continue doing so ... the usual blank-out of the moocher for the source of their 'equally' distributed welfare

- As for the right to freedom being a responsibility again it leaves out what exactly I'm responsible for: only me myself and I (and nobody else) ... of course many (most?) people are scared shitless of such responsibility for their incompetent little lives, such freedom to really do as they wish, as long as they themselves are the doers ... so maybe it's the 'righters' who are playing the emotions game here - the fearful kind ;) I see so many people every day who are so afraid for / of their lives that it completely paralyzes them to do anything for themselves

Other than that little bit of nit-picking we have the same two world views that people have always defended: self-responsible individuals vs. mooching masses, resulting in the preferred government and politicians in equal proportion to the peoples 'wishes'.

What's new in the universe ...


PS: how can you call anyone 'honest' who advocates to give everyone what they want? especially as an entitlement? going a bit overboard with being 'polite' ;)

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 11:59amSanction this postReply

PS: how can you call anyone 'honest' who advocates to give everyone what they want? especially as an entitlement? going a bit overboard with being 'polite' ;)


"Honest socialist" is an unfortunate phrase, because it permits a person to imagine honesty in most if not all aspects of that person's political self.  But that isn't what it means.  It just means this person admits that they are a socialist, unlike those who deny that they are a socialist despite advocating for all of the main socialist positions.  It would be better to use a phrase like, "openly a socialist" since that carries an implication of the existence of those others who are socialists in policy and belief but call themselves "progressives" and dishonestly deny being Marxists.


At one point in the article, the author is clear about calling socialism itself a lie: "Socialism is inherently dishonest. Sanders is about as close to an honest Socialist as you can get on a  national debate stage. But his Socialism is a lie."


The author wove together the principles at play, showing the kind of people who would make up the society under different political systems.  He did this so well as to give a rich meaning to his sentence: "No society can be better, more able to make good decisions, than the people it is composed of."  And then he follows on, saying. "Socialism degrades the people and enters a failure cycle in which it is less able to live up to its promises with every descent into deeper government control."


He wrote, "A society lives or dies by its people. If they can take on responsibilities and make good decisions, then it can grow and be strong. If they can't, then it decays." 


And, "A society can support some degree of criminality, immorality, dishonesty and assorted abusive behaviors. But it can't function when a growing minority and then majority no longer does anything except seek short term advantages at everyone else's expense."


From that you can imply the responsibilities he expects of an individual in a free society: No fraud, theft or initiation of violence and being resonsible for your actions, and your own survival.  An individual's responsibilities are only for himself, his actions, his choices, his well-being.


"Everything that we do has consequences. We are responsible for what we do. The first lie of those who deprive us of our freedom is to assure us that consequences and responsibility can be collectivized."


(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 2/11, 8:17pm)

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