| | Vertigo: if that was actually what you had been saying, then we would have acknowledged that. You were NOT saying that "reality is really real", over in the other thread. You were saying something more like "I can never actually know if reality is real or not, because anything I know can always posslbly be wrong, even if I have no evidence for supporting the conclusion that it is wrong."
In other words, your basic premise was:
1. There is a real world.
2. We can never know anything about reality, because everything we DO 'know" could always concievably be totally wrong. (Nice assertion independent of evidence: WHAT evidence leads you to think that you're knowledge is wrong?)
3. Since we can know nothing about reality, then any and all of the delusions we CHOOSE to call "knowledge" are as good as one another. (Hence, the mere fact that the archaological evidence denies most of the bible, for example, is of no consequence whatsoever.)
Your premise is that reality is unknowable, because whatever we DO know could probably be faked. That's stupid. If you had EVIDENCE to present, it would undermine your entire argument, becasue then you would actually be implying that we CAN KNOW something about reality (and that your evidence was unimpeachable).
The lesson here?
1. Don't come onto a board until you know what the board is about. (IE, ACTUALLY LEARN about Objectivism before posting!!!)
2. Don't expect that a fundamentally alien viewpoint is going to go over well. If we actually thought like you do, then we'd ALREADY BE YOU!!!!
3. pleas of "I just wanted to debate" aren't going to make it all better. You blew it, vertigo. If you'd actually read some objectivist stuff, or given a better presentation, that would have been different, but you just wander in -- admitting that you know nothing about our viewpoint -- and all you can come up with to "learn about it" is some guy on fresian.com?
Gimme a break!
Come on back when you actually KNOW something about what you're trying to debunk, okay?
(When I go to debate fundamentalist christians, I actually know something about the bible first!) sheesh!
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