RoR: Forum

I have a fantastic relationship with everyone in my family already. Except my older brother, whom I haven't spoken to in seven years. He isn't worth the effort.

Post 1

Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:04am

I have little contact with my family. I have no interest spoiling that small amount of contact with arguments over philosophy that will end with hurt feelings and unchanged minds.

"Don't ask. Don't tell."

Post 2

Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:22am

The ones who disapproved actively are dead.

Peter

Post 3

Monday, June 19, 2006 - 1:54pm

It's a little bit crazy to say the current version of Objectivism isn't somewhat anti-social. Rand certainly didn't seem very pro-family, nor did she offer much social guidance thereof.

Post 4

Monday, June 19, 2006 - 2:41pm

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Rand certainly didn't seem very pro-family, nor did she offer much social guidance thereof.
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Okay Andre, but sheesh. I mean, how much can one woman really do??

;-)

Ed
[by relighting Aristotle's torch -- Rand did 'enough' for my own approval]

Post 5

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 1:52am

Peter, what an ominous statement! I feel the desire to never make you angry with me.

Post 6

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:22am

None of my family seems to care much, but I have a hunch my younger sister "prays" for me a great deal.

Post 7

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 7:14am

It's merely a generational thing. The people likeliest to have made a career of knocking Rand are the ones who were already adults, set in their ways, when Objectivism came online in the late 50s. The good news is that if you survived my teenage Randroid phase you can survive anything.

Peter

Post 8

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:06am

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if you survived my teenage Randroid phase
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Ed
[apparently, one of the "lucky" ones]

Post 9

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:08am

Peter Reidy writes:

The good news is that if you survived my teenage Randroid phase you can survive anything.

Ah, but the question is: Why does almost everyone go thru a dreadful "teenage Randroid phase?" What is the sickness at the heart of Objectivism which causes this in most people? Why do some, such as the ARIans, maintain this disease all of their lives?

Post 10

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:47am

Andre asked:

What is the sickness at the heart of Objectivism which causes this in most people?

I would have asked the question, "... at the heart of Objectivists ... ?"

The answers are: Rationalism and Intrinsicism.

Because of the influence of religions and their "holy" texts, these dispositions already have become latently conditioned into the minds of millions. Many who accept the truth of Objectivism zealously tend to treat Ayn Rand like a divinely inspired prophet. This holds especially true of teenagers seeking to create their own unique identities.

I did not get exposed to Objectivism until the age of 22, so some of my teenage cockiness had already subsided. But I still had plenty of insolence left to annoy people with my pontifications. Thankfully, the ARI course Objectivism through Induction aims to cure this misbehavior for those seeking such a cure.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 6/20, 4:17pm)

Post 11

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 4:00pm

Excellent analysis, Luke. I wholeheartedly agree.

I, myself, did not "get exposed to Objectivism" until my ... [hold your breath] ... FOURTH DECADE of life! So, in my wise and emotionally-mature case, THERE WAS NO Randroid phase!

However, people who find themselves on the other end of an intense argument with me -- may find this just A LITTLE hard to believe! ;-) [I can get pretty mean, almost condescending, when it becomes clear that my arguments are being intellectually disrespected (as opposed to, simply, not being respected)]

Perhaps my best defense against this tarnished view of me as this tainted man -- would be a witness (or 9 of them). Witness those who met me at RoR #1, and I'll bet that they'll tell you that I'm about as relaxed and jovial as they come.

Ed
[... and that is a fact of reality and, if you choose to deny it, then you must be a sub-human maggot evader -- an anti-human, anti-life, anti-reason, anti-joy, anti-anti, blood-sucking mongrol leech]

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 6/20, 4:01pm)

Post 12

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:34pm

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:55pm