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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 8:28amSanction this postReply
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I hope Eve realizes that having "a room of one's own" requires the enforcement of the private property rights of the individual without special treatment for race, gender, orientation, etc.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 2:37pmSanction this postReply
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I hope Luke realizes that to have a room of one's own is to be treated with the same indifference as one would treat the average white male, to not be forced to spend most of one's day on unpaid labor for others' benefit. To have a room of one's own is to "earn five hundred a year by your wits."

Yes, Eve is quite aware. Eve just wants to help others get their own damn room, too. Eve will stop speaking in third person, now.

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Monday, July 23, 2007 - 3:52pmSanction this postReply
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Eve wrote:

I hope Luke realizes that to have a room of one's own is to [...] not be forced to spend most of one's day on unpaid labor for others' benefit.

No one today in America can be legally "forced" to do any such thing initially.  Property rights are enforced equally for the single woman or single man regardless of color or orientation.  If any injustice remains, it results from bogus "social mores" related to marriage, parenting and so forth that result in remaining legal questions regarding joint property ownership, etc.  I would say that productive men and women face comparable risks of "enslavement" to the slackness of their spouses and children.  Your gripe has some legitimacy though perhaps not in the way you mean.  Straight people who remain single by choice face many of the same legal discriminations as those who cannot legally marry.

I suggest How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne and http://www.unmarried.org for suggestions to circumvent these conundrums.

Speaking of crying Woolf, I found this suicide note of hers quite revealing of the bond she enjoyed with her husband.
I feel certain that I am going mad again. I feel we can't go through another of those terrible times. And I shan't recover this time. I begin to hear voices, and I can't concentrate. So I am doing what seems the best thing to do. You have given me the greatest possible happiness. You have been in every way all that anyone could be. I don't think two people could have been happier 'til this terrible disease came. I can't fight any longer. I know that I am spoiling your life, that without me you could work. And you will I know. You see I can't even write this properly. I can't read. What I want to say is I owe all the happiness of my life to you. You have been entirely patient with me and incredibly good. I want to say that — everybody knows it. If anybody could have saved me it would have been you. Everything has gone from me but the certainty of your goodness. I can't go on spoiling your life any longer. I don't think two people could have been happier than we have been. [From Wikipedia]

See further discussion at http://rebirthofreason.com/Forum/ArticleDiscussions/1901.shtml#4 if you like.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 7/24, 9:53am)


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