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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:01amSanction this postReply
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Another great article by Harsanyi. Thanks for the link, Ted.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:11amSanction this postReply
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Liberals think the only unfettered choice a woman should have over her life is the choice to abort a fetus. Do they think she should be free to make any other choices in life? Do liberal scum think she has the right to choose which school to send her children to? Nope. Do they think she has the right to choose how to save for retirement? Nope. Do they think she has the right to choose her own health care? Nope. Do they think she has the right to buy whatever car she wants to drive? Nope. Do they think she has the right to listen to whomever she wants on radio? Nope. Apparently liberals think freedom is restricted to abortion only.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 6:10pmSanction this postReply
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John, while I wholeheartedly agree with your underlying sentiment, the examples you gave are perhaps not the perfect examples of stripping away choice.

We are free to send our children to any school we want -- but liberals make us pay to send other people's kids to crappy, overpriced public schools.

We are free to invest money as we see fit to save for retirement -- but liberals make us pay SS taxes to finance other people's retirement. The SS taxes we pay now is not being saved for our retirement -- by law it goes directly to the general fund, to be spent on anything and everything. If you're not currently retired and are counting on SS for your retirement, you're hoping that future Congresses will decide to continue robbing younger people and handing over some of their loot to you, after first skimming off their vig -- a perilous gamble considering the runaway deficit spending going on right now.

We are free to buy from an amazing plethora of car varieties -- but liberals are taking our money to prop up GM and Chrysler, and spent our money on the braindead Cash for Clunkers program.

We are free to listen to anyone we want on radio, or browse internet sites -- but liberals confiscate our money to finance other people's choices, such as NPR or public television.

What these all have in common is that if you're productive enough, you still have choices despite all the money being siphoned off, and so the only people virtually deprived of choices are those who are poor enough that the siphoned tax money makes it extremely difficult to finance private choices, driving them onto the socialist public "choices".

What is different about the health care bill is that the clear, albeit rarely stated intent, is to gradually drive all the private insurers out of business, and force all the hospitals and doctors to work for government. The end game? A Canadian-style socialized medicine system where it is illegal to buy private care, and where we truly will not have a choice of providers short of flying to a foreign country.



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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 6:57pmSanction this postReply
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It's rather naive (and I am being generous here) to say that because we have the ability "to buy from an amazing plethora of car varieties" — a plethora of varieties regulated in their every detail from child safety seats and air cushions to electric alarms that blink and wail if you do not buckle your seatbelt to required milage and a thousands of little details I am not personally qualified to list — that we are free to buy whatever car we wish. If a robber provides you with a list of items that you have the option of his stealing from you or a terrorist tells you that you can choose which of your friends or family he will murder you hardly have a choice. Two hundred varieties of government approved crap sandwich varieties hardly constitutes freedom.

The number of forced "options" available has nothing to do with freedom.

Freedom consists of lack of coercion, not a count of options.

How can you, as an "Objectivist," say stuff like this in good conscience?

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 9:01pmSanction this postReply
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Agreed, they are simply forced options. When you think of public school, the vast majority of Americans can't afford to pay property taxes to prop up a public school system AND pay a private tuition to send their kids to a private school, so the claim by liberals that it is still an option is merely an illusion.

By the way, the radio thing I meant that liberals want equal time given to liberal points of view on radio programs, which would result in outright killing conservative radio programs. And the car thing is that liberals want us to buy 'green' cars, and if they could get away with it, would mandate we all drive the same colossally expensive 'green' car. But aborting a fetus? Oh, yeah that's fine, no restrictions on that. We'll even make other people pay for them.

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