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Friday, June 1, 2012 - 7:25pmSanction this postReply
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So much for the content of a man's character ...

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Friday, June 1, 2012 - 9:13pmSanction this postReply
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Insane.

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Saturday, June 2, 2012 - 2:15pmSanction this postReply
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When I was in high school (my junior year), Barack Obama was the man to vote for.

The school was crazy about him. I'm not sure how many students actually knew of his policies, but the vast majority loved him. I think mostly because he was charismatic and black (and a departure from Bush). In fact, I think the fact that he was black was the reason many supported him.

So, if you opposed Obama, as the reasoning may have went, you were a racist (you were opposing him because he was black).

It was amazing to see group-think on such a large level; I wish I would have been aware of it at the time.

I imagine the social intimidation must have been massive.

Who would risk voicing an opposing view if it meant social ostracism? And you know how much most teenagers value their social reputation.

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Saturday, June 2, 2012 - 11:48pmSanction this postReply
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Who would risk voicing an opposing view if it meant social ostracism? And you know how much most teenagers value their social reputation.
Now, THAT is a major problem. That is a danger born not just of collectivism, but also all the things that have created the current generation-gap and the cultural's failure to present heroes that model individualism. I'm afraid that I don't see very many of those teens growing into strong individuals on their own and that tell's me we have a mostly lost generation.

(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 6/02, 11:51pm)


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Sunday, June 3, 2012 - 6:18amSanction this postReply
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What's the meaning of 'lost generation?'

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Sunday, June 3, 2012 - 7:13amSanction this postReply
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The "lost generation" is the end game of the government schooling system:

"Our schools of learning, by producing one general and uniform system of education, will render the mass of the people more homogeneous and thereby fit them more easily for uniform and peaceable government." -- Dr. Benjamin Rush, Philadelphia, 1786

"Individuals do not even compose a social group because they all work for a common end. The parts of a machine work with a maximum of cooperativeness for a common result, but they do not form a community. If, however, they were all cognizant of the common end and all interested in it so that they regulated their specific activity in view of it, then they would form a community." -- John Dewey, Democracy and Education, 1916

No one should feel surprise that this philosophy results in "teenagers [who] value their social reputation" more than objective truth.

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Sunday, June 3, 2012 - 1:59pmSanction this postReply
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Brandon, my use of the phrase "lost generation" was intended to portray a generation, many of whom, are being lost into the collectivist movement, rather than grasping a significant understanding of individualism. And those few that would stumble into individualism, given the popular media and the govt. schools, aren't likely to sustain and develop it for their life - not in a significant way. Given the degree of this generation's response to peer pressure, it would be a real uphill battle.

History moves in generations, more than events - events are more the effects that get taught as history's markers. Ideas are history's cause, generations are the units in the flow of time as the people in a generation act on the ideas from earlier periods, and the events are just what we see sticking up out of the flow, like rocks in stream.

Each generation passes on to the next a mixture of values and beliefs and skills. And cultures can decline rapidly given generational 'failures'. This kind of 'failure' is always two sided. The older generation fails in their educational and cultural transmission systems. And the new generation doesn't aggressively take an education. Things don't go forward and simply disappear.

Then, from a less cogent future, there are fewer tools that will let that future generation look back and see what wasn't passed forward.

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