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Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 5:51pmSanction this postReply
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Caveat:
On my actual YouTube account, I made notes under the video. Basically, I said that inequality isn't bad, but that some kinds of changes in inequality -- the kind you get from statism -- are bad.

Ed


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Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 11:22amSanction this postReply
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Ed, that was excellent!

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Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 5:55pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Tres!

And I do realize how offputting it might be to wait for me to wax and wane and shift and shuffle -- in order to get that damn white board positioned correctly in front of the camera! Dobt! There is a mirror-effect from the camera, making it seem that you should move the board, say, to the right in order to center it, when in fact you would need to move the board left. I'm working on a fix for this, involving a stationary stand into which I can put the whiteboard ...

Ed


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Monday, April 30, 2012 - 4:04amSanction this postReply
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I thought it was a  good idea. Everyone tries to be clever and super techie, but I liked your old school style. Very relatable.

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Monday, April 30, 2012 - 3:38pmSanction this postReply
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Tres,

You wanna' know where I got that white-board? I bought a kids Crayon (Tm) playset at the department store! Those are white-board crayons I'm using. I broke one of the crayons already and I wanted to run around fast in a circle, wailing, and then fall to the floor and kick and scream for a while. Needless to say, I exercised restraint (I gave myself a tasty treat to take my mind off of the broken crayon).

But apparently, the crayons did the trick this time, huh? The low-tech approach certainly has its own unique appeal. You know, if I had the cash and time, I'd shoot the next video from caves in southeast France, scratching stick-men into the walls of the cave with a sharp rock or something. The motto might be that even a caveman can understand that socialism is actually just destructive propaganda that keeps a few of us rich while making the rest of us poor.

Ahhh, if I only had the money and time ...

:-)

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 4/30, 3:45pm)


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Tuesday, May 1, 2012 - 4:01amSanction this postReply
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Well, I kept thinking about Tim Russert (sp?) and how popular his little white board was. :)

Hey, about the "cave drawings," just tape up a sheet on the wall to draw on, use a flashlight (or two, or three), wear a shaggy wig, and grunt yer lines.  Hahahaha!


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Tuesday, May 1, 2012 - 2:27pmSanction this postReply
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I suppose I am going to have to invest in a fake unibrow, too.

:-)

Ed


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Wednesday, May 2, 2012 - 9:04amSanction this postReply
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Noooo, just borrow some cosmetics.

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Thursday, May 3, 2012 - 9:46amSanction this postReply
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Ed:

That was good stuff. You made a great point.

Hard to show, but easy to imagine: that flowdown from the Govt (using OPM from all) was a selective subsidy of just -some- companies and -some- banks. We subsidize the failing by effectively punishing success. Properly functioning banks wanted no part of TARP, but were forced to participate. Why? Because their ability to not depend on handouts would make the failing banks look bad(providing information to consumers...) And, the Gov't knew better.

Seriously.

Our Gov't has, for decades, been fatfingering the management of risk; by force, shedding risk from some onto others.

The others have noticed, and that carcass we see with the bones showing is those others taking a bye.

The Gov't takes breath(not only from still breathing beasts, but from future economies)and forces it into the carcass of our once beast. The beast's lungs expand, and indeed, it exhales. But the beast does not adequately breath on its own.

Spending is a downhill human effort, undertaken mostly with pleasure. (Spending others money even more so, or even, other generation's credit.) Earning is an uphill human effort.

The engines that drive economies as healthy beasts involve the willingness to make an effort take on risk and run uphill. Gov't policies have deliberately attacked the incentive system, replacing it with whips and guns and whimsical, arbitrary alternate flogging/prodding of 'the' economy. These people have lost their minds, are just flat out wrong, and can't believe it. Utopists have attempted to unilaterally repeal the management of risk in the universe by forcefully shedding it off of some onto others from on high.

The risk/reward model exposes 'too much' failure/success, and so, in their attempt to target stasis, they punish success and subsidize failure. This is a tribal race to the bottom.

Those 'purple people' working for wages are doing so on a risk free, guaranteed rate of return basis, and so, at a discounted basis, to reflect the value of the guarantee.

The CEOs, shareholders, equity holders are working on an at-risk basis, with no arbitrary limit on either upside or downside. To achieve a certain return, they must sharpen their pencils and employ risk free labor smartly.

As you well point out, along comes the Gov't -- to only some companies, to only some banks -- and props them up with OPM on a totally risk-free basis. Suddenly, those who once intelligently managed risk and lived under the rules of risk/reward have greatly reduced incentive to do so, based on how much rain is falling effortlessly from above. As well, their 'competitors', seeing a now rigged game(a necessity for the Outcome Based Justice folks), have reduced incentive to take on risk on that no longer even playing field, and so, even they contract...

... resulting in the current 'depressed' economies.

When you objectively examine these policies, it gets harder and harder to categorize them as simple disagreement on policy. It is getting next to impossible to conclude anything other than it is a deliberate scheme to ruin the nation, because that is exactly the result.

I forget if I ever showed this to you, but here is a YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlNcf0xm3w model of the economies.

I wish I had included some kind of illustration that distinguished risk free vs. at-risk pulling on pump handles, but both clearly exist in our economies, and the risk-free pulls as wages ultimately depend on at-risk pulls EXCEPT where subsidized by taxation taken from others. By increasing the amount of Gov't management of risk, painlessly using OPM, we reduce the total amount of focused at risk management in our economies. The results are what they are.

I recognize that this model, as oversimpified as it is, is already way too complex to broadly make the point.

But, with this model, notice what happens when the gov't simply pours manufactured water into the pipes. Sure enough, water runs down hill. But where is the incentive to freshly pull on pump handles, especially, under a model of managed, focused risk?

The Gov't has been killing the engine that drives economies uphill and allows the beast to breath on its own. The Krugmans of the world believe that the beast can't help but breathe, no matter what flogging/prodding schemes they dream up with their whips and agendas. They are flat wrong, as is evident.

regards,
Fred


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Saturday, May 5, 2012 - 9:14amSanction this postReply
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Fred,
... along comes the Gov't -- to only some companies, to only some banks -- and props them up with OPM on a totally risk-free basis. Suddenly, those who once intelligently managed risk and lived under the rules of risk/reward have greatly reduced incentive to do so, based on how much rain is falling effortlessly from above. As well, their 'competitors', seeing a now rigged game(a necessity for the Outcome Based Justice folks), have reduced incentive to take on risk on that no longer even playing field, and so, even they contract...

... resulting in the current 'depressed' economies.
You really nailed it, there.

Ed


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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 - 1:24pmSanction this postReply
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the gap is natural though. its not something wrong that we should try and decrease or close down. I think most people have egalitarian premises which is why they think that such a gap is innately bad.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 - 1:45pmSanction this postReply
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Michael,

You missed my main point. Did you view the video? The main point is not that there is a gap, but whether it's getting wider and why. It turns out it's recently getting wider -- but not for the reason popularly propagated (i.e., too much capitalism). It turns out this recent widening is not natural, but state-caused. If the gov't fishes up wealth from the middle class, and then pours it into the pockets of well-connected, billionaire cronies -- then you get a wider gap between the rich and the poor (but it wasn't caused by the market). Also, if the gov't stifles innovation, instituting a command-and-control, top-down, guild socialism -- then even median income drops (because total wealth drops).

The only people insulated from this destruction of the otherwise-consistent benefits of free exchange are the well-connected cronies such as Warren Buffet, Brian Harrison, Lloyd Blankfein, Dan Akerson, and Jeffrey Immelt.

If you are someone who thinks that there's "too much" capitalism, and you use the gap between the rich and the poor as your evidence of that (by taking the egalitarian moral view), then your political plan can be debunked by 2 methods:

1) the invalidation of egalitarianism as a moral principle in general
2) understanding that the medicine proposed (i.e., socialism) in order to implement the sought-after egalitarianism, is actually worse than the 'disease' itself (because it is counter-productive precisely regarding the reason for its use)

Those are 2 fronts on which we can stand and fight. Because hardly anyone has made ground on front #2, I chose to do so in the video (to fill a nagging vacancy in our fight against statism).

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 5/08, 1:56pm)


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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 - 1:56pmSanction this postReply
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You are absolutely right, Ed. Another big cause of a government created widening of the gap is the shrinkage of the middle-class because a combination of entitlements and greater restrictions on starting small businesses means fewer people moving up from those who are poor. What the left doesn't see is that it is a dynamic process where people migrate from lower economic status to middle class status - when the government doesn't get in the way and make that difficult.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 - 1:59pmSanction this postReply
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Steve,

We cross-posted, but thanks for bringing up the dynamism of markets. That's a key point that is, as you say, missed by socialists.

Ed


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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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oh yeah I did see the video. however I do think that most people object to the gap being there in the first place. i understand that under capitalism the gap is natural and that in a mixed economy it is state created but i don't think those arguing for income inequality want to understand it

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 4:51amSanction this postReply
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Michael,

i understand that under capitalism the gap is natural and that in a mixed economy it is state created but i don't think those arguing for income inequality want to understand it
I made a gamble in our fight against egalitarianism: either try to knock the whole thing down, or try to -- even slightly -- crack the foundation and introduce some doubt (so that someone else could come along and knock the whole thing down). You are right that people resist new understandings of things. There is comfort in the familiar. If you already believe that egalitarianism is a moral end and that socialism is an efficient means to the achievement of egalitarianism -- then it'll be hard to change your mind. My bet with this video was that it would be harder to invalidate egalitarianism wholesale, so I simply cracked the foundation.

When I outgrew religion, it wasn't because someone knocked the whole thing down for me. Instead, someone created a crack in the foundation -- and then the idea gradually lost primacy in my mind. The crack was when someone referred to God as a "she." I wanted to disagree but couldn't. That's because my "concepts" about religion were not efficient enough (no concepts about religion are efficient enough). Once I learned that I couldn't tell you whether God was a man or a woman or not -- I started questioning everything I thought I knew about religion.

I'm trying to recreate that experience in the minds of others, only their religion is egalitarianism, and I'm trying to introduce that crack in the foundation that otherwise supports it.

Ed


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Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 4:46amSanction this postReply
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Ed:

There is the original meaning of Egalitarianism, which was, no Emperors/Royals ruling over peons. Just peers.

There is it's modern mutation, which is represented by Kurt Vonnegut's lead weighted ballerinas.

It's one thing to rail against Royals.

It's another thing to rail against the fact that it is necessary to make an effort to run uphill, but once that effort has been made, the view from higher up the hill is always better, and sometimes even spectacular, while as we effortlessly sink to the bottom, the view gets worse. And, the universe is such that even standing still takes effort; without effort, we slide lower...

The 'solution' to that fact of the universe which involves bulldozing all hills and making both the effort to climb them and success at doing so a defacto crime against the new emperor of humanity, the Average Tribesman, is the new egalitarianism.

Children rail at their growing awareness that it will someday be necessary to create in order to consume. That, as fun and effortless as it is to run only downhill, when you reach the bottom, new effort is required to go back up the hill. That effort must come from someone, and the demand that others carry us is not the demand of an adult, but the demand of a child. It results sometimes in Peter Pan Syndrome, an unwillingness to grow up and face the rules of the universe.

As well, the urge to tell others how high they may climb, how much effort they may make, is not the urge of peers living in freedom; it is the irrational desire to be anointed an Emperor of Enough, an arbitrary ruler of others.

There is no top of the hill, and the corollary to that is, there is no bottom, either. There is only the hill, and the choice: is ours a race up, or a race down?

regards,
Fred

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Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 11:17amSanction this postReply
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A beautiful post (as usual), Fred.

:-)

Ed


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Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 12:11pmSanction this postReply
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Ed:

Thanks for taking the time to say that.

regards,
Fred

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