Rebirth of Reason

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Post 60

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 7:21pmSanction this postReply
I don't believe the free market is the solution to everything. Should police and fire service be profit-based too? Only the wealthiest get protected? That's what we're really getting at here. Pure selfish greed. Screw the community. Everybody for themselves.

Ok, without getting into the idea of privatizing police and fire service, why would you then extend this idea that free market isn't the solution to any other product or service?

I understand the frustration with paying taxes for services you don't use or believe in. But instead of whining about the system, why not try fixing it and making it more accountable?

Why not just stop forcibly taking people's money to fund a product they may never want or use?

Post 61

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 8:38amSanction this postReply

Apparently, a LOT of local Libertarian groups did not get the memo:





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Post 62

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 - 2:15pmSanction this postReply

Apparently you're trying to say that Libertarians shouldn't use libraries for any purpose, even though they have been forced to pay for them. Sorta like having to buy insurance, but if you have a claim, you should not submit it, on principle.



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Saturday, August 15 - 1:05pmSanction this postReply



This was an interesting discussion in 2003 but much has transpired in the meantime. Jeff correctly identified the new trend of getting DVDs via the mail  but, of course, no one could foresee the streaming services we have now..


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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 2:49amSanction this postReplyBookmarkLinkEdit
UPDATE: There's an interesting article in Wired about a company called Netflix that has a business model that compares to Blockbuster as Blockbuster compares to public libraries. The innovation in the private sector keeps on rolling while the stagnation and waste in the public sector just sits there


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Post 64

Tuesday, September 1 - 5:16pmSanction this postReply

Well, I guess this ties in to that...


Dear Michael:

As you may know, the Ayn Rand Institute was sharply attacked for having sought and accepted funds from the federal Paycheck Protection Program. Like many other American employers, we had to furlough staff after the pandemic broke. Now we’re continuing to be publicly shamed for participating in a relief program that we clearly qualified for.

Why is ARI being singled out?

Because we are the organization that morally opposes the welfare state, condemning it root and branch as a violation of America’s founding principles. That is our unforgivable sin in critics’ eyes. As punishment, they want us to accept the status of double victims—once when we’re forced to pay for the programs we oppose, and again when we refuse partial restitution for the hardships imposed on us.

Not on my watch.

I won’t allow the Institute that bears Ayn Rand’s name to become a symbol of self-inflicted martyrdom. During her lifetime, she explained specifically why genuine opponents of the welfare state are morally entitled to claim restitution, while those who clamor for such programs are not. Here are some resources to help you better understand our reasoning:When controversies like this arise, I’m especially grateful for your decision to be a donor. You’re one of a very few in this culture who realize that serious intellectual work is involved in applying Objectivism to real life. It would have been a grave injustice not to apply for PPP funds—but the reasons are not self-evident. With your support, we were able to navigate events quickly, make good decisions and provide timely explanations that have been widely quoted in news reports.

Thank you for your current support and please consider increasing it, as we need more resources to fulfill ARI’s goal, set by Dr. Leonard Peikoff many years ago, of spreading Objectivism by means of educational activities.

Any one-time donation or raising your ARI Membership level will help us reach more active minds looking for a better philosophy for living on earth.

Tal Tsfany
President & CEO
Ayn Rand Institute


To Take or Not to Take https://newideal.aynrand.org/to-take-or-not-to-take/

On the Quetion of Scholarhips https://courses.aynrand.org/works/the-question-of-scholarships/


[ MEM: I mean, OK, is it immoral to use the streets?  Where do you draw the line? I believe that the standard is self-interest. How do you live as human qua human in the environment in which you find yourself?  ]


Here is a YouTube video with more from the ARI


Ayn Rand Institute

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In this episode of New Ideal Live, Elan Journo and Onkar Ghate discuss the controversy surrounding ARI’s acceptance of a Paycheck Protection Program loan. ARI previously announced it was seeking PPP relief and elaborated the moral justification for its position in an article (https://newideal.aynrand.org/to-take-...) and previous webinar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPTw...). Topics discussed include: Why ARI opposes the welfare state, and why it’s not hypocritical for opponents of welfare state programs to collect payments from these programs Why the shaming of ARI in particular for receiving PPP loans stems from an anti-intellectual attitude aimed at shutting down critics Why precise bookkeeping of one’s losses to the welfare state isn’t necessary for seeking restitution from it Why Ayn Rand’s opposition to the welfare state is not the “standard conservative” position
Two articles by Ayn Rand are mentioned in the discussion: “The Question of Scholarships” (https://courses.aynrand.org/works/the...) and “The Establishing of an Establishment.” (https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Who...)

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