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Monday, February 24, 2003 - 2:18pmSanction this postReply
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Yes - indeed the USA has fallen far from its original ideas. This is why I think the term "anti-american" which is becoming ever more common is so interesting. Do they mean :

(1) Anti the original philosophical ideas which founded the USA
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(2) Anti the corrupt deformed america which exists today.

Quite often to support the ideas of the founding fathers is ridiculed as "Anti-American" - while supporting the gradual decay of these ideas is seen as patriotic and "American".

Max.

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Monday, February 24, 2003 - 7:22pmSanction this postReply
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Scott:

That last paragraph is gorgeous...I feel like I should write it down and put it somewhere that I'll see it all the time. Unfortunately, I don't know where that might be, as I sleep in a new bed every week.

(That sounds a bit racy, eh? Think I'll leave it there.)

Ash

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 11:21amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for the feedback, Max and ash. I seem to have quite the appeal to those with three-letter names...

Ash, I know you travel alot for work. Keep it racy. I like it like that...and for the record, that last bit is my favorite part. I fear I have used up my eloquence quota fro the month. My raunch quota, however, is brimming full. Maybe time for some dirty limericks for SOLO Poetry?

I must say that I am just flabbergasted at the number of felon-politicians proliferating in Illinois. That's what happens when, instead of being repulsed by the 'all politicians are cooked' premises, we accept it. Then, they take the next step. I am waiting for a drug czar ro run for president, 'cause he's got enough money...

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Tuesday, November 17 - 12:32pmSanction this postReply
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Bump. Timely meditation.



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Saturday, November 21 - 2:24pmSanction this postReply
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Reading this again in the context of rampant election cheating leads to new interpretations of the conditions outlined.

 

Thanks for bumping this, Joe.



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Saturday, November 21 - 3:17pmSanction this postReply
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The people who have counted the votes and certified the results have done a much better job of upholding objectivity and upholding right over wrong than Trump and his sheep. 

 

Trump has managed to stay out of jail so far, but reality still has a chance to catch up with him. 



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Saturday, November 21 - 5:47pmSanction this postReply
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Do Trump Supporters Live in an Alternate Universe?

 

FEC Chairman: Trump campaign bringing 'legitimate accusations' of election fraud to court

 

Hard-to-find 2020 election fraud stories and links

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/22, 3:46am)



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Sunday, November 22 - 9:29amSanction this postReply
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How is all this holding up in court?



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Sunday, November 22 - 10:08amSanction this postReply
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It will all ultimately drive to the United States Supreme Court which will be the only civilian court that ultimately counts.  

 

Also bear in mind that Trump has numerous Executive Orders and emergency powers that could, worst case, allow him to declare martial law, arrest as enemy combatants those domestically who committed voter fraud with the help of foreign nations, confiscate their assets, and send them to Guantanamo Bay for swift military tribunals followed by prosecution, conviction, and execution.

 

Foreign national interference in domestic elections amounts to an act of war, and knowing domestic cooperation with such entities constitutes treason, a capital offense.

 

Senator Graham and Justice Kavanaugh Exchange on Domestic Enemy Combatants

 

German City Is CIA Remote Hacking Base: 28 States Sent Election Results There

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/22, 10:16am)



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Sunday, November 22 - 3:06pmSanction this postReply
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So maybe Trump will establish a dictatorship.  That could be horribly destabilizing.



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Monday, November 23 - 4:18pmSanction this postReply
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Doug, if credible sources provide a preponderance of solid evidence of foreign meddling in domestic elections to the point of shifting the outcome to favor one POTUS candidate over the other, do you propose letting them get away with it since the alternative "could be horribly destabilizing"?

 

The Trump-Flynn-Sessions Power Maneuver to Bring Down the Deep State

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/24, 3:55am)



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Tuesday, November 24 - 12:20pmSanction this postReply
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That's a very big if.  

 

Using martial law and military trials when normal law enforcement and courts are still functioning is a sign of dictatorship.  Rushed trials and rushed executions are a sign of dictatorship.

 

If there are legitimate grounds for accusations of criminal conduct, why not use normal law enforcement and civilian courts?

 

Enemy combatants would be people using guns and bombs against us on a military scale.



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Friday, November 27 - 6:30pmSanction this postReply
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What are you going to do about it? A thousand years ago, when mastodons were roaming the streets, about 1972 or so, there was an article in The Libertarian Connection called "What if They Gave a Milliennium and No One Came?" A rational person is only concerned with the freedom that they can obtain for themselves in their own lifetime. Even if any or all of the conspiracy theory is factual, what does it mean to you in terms of how you live your life?



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Saturday, November 28 - 11:36amSanction this postReply
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I will consistently cast my voice, my dollars, and my ballots in favor of rational nationalism.

 

Defend the Republic

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/28, 11:49am)



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Sunday, November 29 - 8:39amSanction this postReply
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Please define rational nationalism.



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Sunday, November 29 - 9:54amSanction this postReply
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Not Objectivist but comes close to what I have in mind:

 

Rational Nationalism: The bipartisan antidote to globalism's failures

 

Rational Nationalism is a recognition that we need to focus upon our country’s prosperity because we already have, right now, the tools to achieve that end without asking permission from other countries. It respects the rights and aspirations of other countries while enabling international cooperation, but does not pretend to combine with them, incrementally or otherwise. It is the best political/cultural combination devised thus far.

For trade purposes, Rational Nationalism would help refocus us upon the US national interest of improving the lives of workers and businesses here. It would empower us to create a national strategy to win the global competition for jobs and industries.  It would not tolerate incrementally entering a global common market that simply won’t, and can’t, provide the prosperity we can otherwise achieve.

 

I would add assuring that supply chains for goods and services critical to the Republic in times of war and crisis remain fully domestic.

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/30, 6:02am)



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Sunday, November 29 - 2:20pmSanction this postReply
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What is the connection between this definition and paranoia about alleged voter fraud?



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Sunday, November 29 - 4:41pmSanction this postReply
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Doug, it depends on what you have read and accepted or rejected about wealthy and connected people who nefariously manipulate government for their own benefit -- authentic crony capitalists (neo-feudalists) in the flesh.

  • Have you read The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin?  Wealthy bankers colluded to arrange a scheme to print money from thin air and lend it to the government at interest via the creation of the Federal Reserve System.  Once they have that power, they will do whatever they can to ensure they retain and grow it, and they will have the money to do so.
  • What do you know about Operation Paperclip?  The United States recruited Nazi scientists after WWII to work in the new CIA.  Did you really think these Nazis would forego their racist, national socialist ideologies and employ their newfound clandestine CIA power honorably?
  • What about President Eisenhower's public warning about the military-industrial complex (MIC)?  Do you really think these people would remain completely honorable, or would they indulge their quest for more and still more wealth via manipulation of the government through lobbying, bribery, and fraud?
  • The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has formed an unholy fusion of state and corporation that can serve as a template globally for one-world government with them in charge.  They play a long game of fourth generation warfare via information control of mass media, bribery, blackmail, and other subterfuge to undermine rational nationalism in the USA.  At the moment, six corporations control 90% of all media, making collusion into a single narrative easy.  The Chinese know how to influence these corporations and their governments for their own benefit to our detriment.

I am seeing way too much evidence of election fraud, manipulation, collusion, and conspiracy to ignore.

 

For now, I will call my form of rational nationalism "the primacy of the Republic over the Corporation."  The Republic is tasked with protecting individual rights to person and property.  Actions which undermine the Republic's ability to execute this sacred duty to its citizens threaten the life of everyone and consequently deserve discouragement or illegality via public policy.  Actions which enhance it deserve support.  Right now, the Republic has become so hollowed by generations of detrimental policy as to threaten all Americans and ultimately all of humanity.

 

Rights may be natural, but without a Republic to protect those rights against all enemies foreign and domestic, for all practical purposes, you have no rights.

 

Watch Out of Shadows and get back to me.

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/30, 6:05am)



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Monday, November 30 - 10:06amSanction this postReply
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Luke, you didn't really answer my question.

 

I watched part of Out of Shadows.  It seems to be religionist nonsense.



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Monday, November 30 - 10:32amSanction this postReply
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  1. Concerns about voter fraud have a valid, concrete, evidential basis and are not paranoia, e.g. "Arizona Injected Votes Faster Than Scanners Can Process Ballots."
  2. Foreign interference in domestic elections revealed by this evidence exemplify the ongoing need to put one's own nation first in public policy always.
  3. Out of Shadows shows concretely how the Nazis and other bad actors infiltrated American institutions to create a false narrative to brainwash the population -- "infiltration instead of invasion" (JFK).

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 11/30, 3:07pm)



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