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Post 20

Wednesday, October 6, 2004 - 9:52pmSanction this postReply
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Here's an eminem song... now when you read it get over your preference for white anglo queen's english. Here is a song by a man who struggled - worked hard - succeeded when odds were against him.

It's a call to the listener to embrace life - grab life with both hands - not settle for second best.

I find this song inpiring - not "life destroying" or "anti life". I struggle with my writing. To have a song which is inspitational, talked about how hard work will bring success is just what I need... not some classical music worshipping nature....

Yeah - I found my inspiration in Gansta Rap (I find Dr Dre a great inspiration too) not in Beetoven. Hey I guess I must be a life hating lowlife slime filled scum.....

Anyways read it yourself...better still listen to it;


Eminem
Lose Yourself

Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted-One moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?

Yo, His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting
What he wrote down, the whole crowd goes so loud
He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out
He's chokin, how everybody's chokin now
The clock's run out, time's up over, bloah!
Snap back to reality, Oh there goes gravity
Oh, there goes Rabbit, he choked
He's so mad, but he won't give up that easy
No, he won't have it , he knows his whole back city's ropes
It don't matter, he's dope
He knows that, but he's broke
He's so stacked that he knows
When he goes back to his mobile home, that's when it's
Back to the lab again yo
This whole rap city
He better go capture this moment and hope it don't pass him

[Chorus:]
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo,

You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime you better,

His soul's escaping, through this hole that it's gaping
This world is mine for the taking
Make me king, as we move toward a, new world order
A normal life is borin, but superstardom's close to post mortom
It only grows harder, only grows hotter
He blows us all over these hoes is all on him
Coast to coast shows, he's know as the globetrotter
Lonely roads, God only knows
He's grown farther from home, he's no father
He goes home and barely knows his own daughter
But hold your nose cause here goes the cold water
These ho's don't want him no mo, he's cold product
They moved on to the next schmoe who flows
He nose dove and sold nada
So the soap opera is told and unfolds
I suppose itís old partner, but the beat goes on
Da da dum da dum da da

[Chorus:]
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo

You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo, you better

No more games, I'ma change what you call rage
Tear this mothafuckin roof off like 2 dogs caged
I was playin in the beginnin, the mood all changed
I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhymin and stepwritin the next cypher
Best believe somebody's payin the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact
That I can't get by with my 9 to 5
And I can't provide the right type of life for my family
Cause man, these goddam food stamps don't buy diapers
And it's no movie, there's no Makai Pfeiffer, this is my life
And these times are so hard and it's getting even harder
Tryin to feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter-totter caught up between trying to be a father and a pre-madonna
Baby mama drama's screamin on and
Too much for me to wanna
Stay in one spot, another day of monotony
Has gotten me to the point, I'm like a snail
I've got to formulate a plot or I end up in jail or shot
Success is my only mothafuckin option, failure's not
Mom, I love you, but this trailer's got to go
I cannot grow old in Salem's lot
So here I go is my shot.
Feet fail me not or not this may be the only opportunity that I got

[Chorus:]
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo

You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime you better,

You can do anything you set your mind to, man



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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 1:32amSanction this postReply
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Est nihil, fratre; cave; beare.
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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 5:14amSanction this postReply
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I'm going to get shot for this, but I happen to love that Eminem song, as I do several of his others.  Though much of his music is malevolent, songs like this have an underlying theme of persistence, tenacity and "crawling over dead bodies" (a la Howard Roark) to get to the goal.  I have to respect that.

I used to have this song primed for the toughest part of my gym workout, because it gave me an adrenaline rush to get me through the peak of the physical challenge.  Classical just wouldn't have gotten the job done.


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 10:30amSanction this postReply
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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 11:34amSanction this postReply
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Irfan, a tour de force. And that you for liking me just the way I am, because I am about 5 pounds overweight for spandex.

You know, maybe their SHOULD be a Solo Cauterwaulin group. I nominate you as the leader based on the Living on a Prayer Interpretation.

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 11:35amSanction this postReply
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Irfan, a tour de force. And thank you for liking me just the way I am, because I am about 5 pounds overweight for spandex.

You know, maybe their SHOULD be a Solo Cauterwaulin' group. I nominate you as the leader based on the Living on a Prayer Interpretation.
(Edited by Joe Maurone on 10/07, 11:37am)


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 12:11pmSanction this postReply
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Jeanine, I proclaim my ignorance. What did you say?
Though I will posture at a guess...

Est nihil, fratre; cave; beare
Is nothing, brother; something about clan of the cave bear...?

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 1:34pmSanction this postReply
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Please be careful what music you recommend to James. I have more than a suspicion that I'll have to listen to it, too.

To give you my history concerning popular music: A number of years ago, a young friend asked me if I liked the Beatles. No! I answered at once. Then my friend named a particular song, and asked if I liked it. It's beautiful, I answered. He named several other popular songs, which I also very much liked. They're all Beatles songs, he told me. Where am I now? I like quite a lot of Beatles music. And that's about where I stopped. So please, be gentle.

Barbara

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 1:46pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you all for these suggestions. I will start with Rush, as I have been told before that I would appreciate their music. I will go from there. I am really grateful to you all for sharing your opinions and knowledge with me.

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 1:50pmSanction this postReply
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Barbara, James,

In a number of recent threads, I and a few other members have recommended various contemporary musicians. I personally have quite a fondness for certain progressive rock groups, such as the Rand influenced Rush, and Symphony X. If either of you were to listen to some of this music, it's entirely possible that you will decide it simply doesn't "do it" for you, and that would be fair enough. You don't even have to buy any albums - Amazon.com has free online samples of these and many other records.

Just a thought :-)

MH

Edit - I just realised others have recommended Rush earlier in this thread. My apologies - I hadn't read all the messages before posting.

(Edited by Matthew Humphreys on 10/07, 1:55pm)


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 2:44pmSanction this postReply
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I have to agree that "Living On A Prayer" is a masterpiece of modern rock. Or wait, if I call it a masterpiece does that imply that I think it's art...? In any case, I like Eminem, as well. I'm with Jennifer - it's what I use at the gym. Um, when I went to the gym, before I broke my leg. Really, though, the lyrics don't have to be inspirational for me to be entertained, I mean, I don't demand that of opera - christ, how do I know what they're saying in italian/german/whatever? so why do I need to try and decipher rap? As long as I can shake my booty or is has an impressively catchy rythm, good enough.

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 2:46pmSanction this postReply
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Oh, jesus. And now I haven't capitalised properly in the above post, so now I'll be labelled a post-modernist by Linz. And I've taken the Lord's name in vain twice, so my Dad will probably call me, as well.
(Edited by Ashley Frazier on 10/07, 2:47pm)


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 3:42pmSanction this postReply
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Props to "Living on a Prayer" (that Slippery When Wet album is great), the Beatles, Rush, and to a lot of other great tracks and bands mentioned here.  And don't forget that even though I love Mario Lanza, I can appreciate some of Eminem too.  I also have a great love for classical, film scores, jazz, R&B, and, dare I say:  disco.  Yes, CLASSIC disco---to which I danced my ass off in the late 70s and early 80s (when I was a mobile DJ working bar mitzvahs, proms, and school dances...).

I'd run for the hills from Linz's wrath, but don't let him fool you. Not when he's quoting from Elton John and the Spice Girls, and swiveling his hips on the Coney Island boardwalk to the sounds of the Bee Gees

Okay, now I'll run.  heh


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Heh, yourself! You won't be able to run far on ice *that* thin, Diabolical!

And it's not likely anyone will forget your ecumenical credentials anytime soon ... whore!
  
:-)


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 4:28pmSanction this postReply
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But Linz, I would *pay* to see you swivel your hips to the Bee Gees.  I know there is a Daring Disco Diva lurking in there somewhere...  ;)

And so, we have yet another DDD.   :)


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 4:42pmSanction this postReply
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Jennifer, my dear ... you couldn't afford me, nor any part of me. *Especially* my hips.

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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Chris, as always, you're wonderful.

<smooch>

Now let me really leave myself wide open and say I'm an Elton John fan myself.  The following is one of my favorite pieces... the fascinating thing it that E.J. does the persona he is adopting more accurately than the standard histories of philosophy.  And he makes points O'ists should agree with.

"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
 - Francis Bacon

Jeanine Ring

Why's it never light on my lawn?
Why does it rain and never say

good-day, the new-born?
On the big screen they showed us the sun
But not as bright in life as the real one
It's never quite the same as the real one....

I never learned why meteors were formed
I only farmed in schools that were so warn and torn
If anyone can cry, then so can I
I read books and draw life from the eye
All my life is drawings from the eye....

Your mission bells were wrought by ancient men
The roots were formed by twisted roots
Your roots were twisted then
I was re-born before all life could die
The Phoenix bird will leave this world to fly...
if the Phoenix bird can fly then so can I

So tell me, grey seal,
how does it feel
to be so wise?
To see through eyes
that only see...

what's real.
Tell me,

grey seal


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Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 3:44pmSanction this postReply
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>Jeanine, I proclaim my ignorance. What did you say?
>Though I will posture at a guess...

>Est nihil, fratre; cave; beare
>Is nothing, brother; something about clan of the cave bear...?

(a practicing classical courtesan shakes her head and then buries her face in her hands. *sob*)
 
Peripatetik!  Stoik!  Aufklarunger!  Who brought you to this philosophical party, ancilla?  Dear grey-eyed goddess!,  "cave bear", indeed!  Get with the neolithic revolution!  Poser!- go stand and model.  By a bridge.

I (gasp) *suppose* I can toss out@ a suitably mundane and colloquial translation; I reserve other translations for liberal company!

(Sniff!)

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"It's nothing, bro', watch your back and shine on!"

Pyrophora of Cyprus  {))(*)((}
Cynic, peripatetik
nothing changes


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