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Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 8:01amSanction this postReply
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Despite the fact that, particularly in current times, marriages do not always last, the real point of marriage, as I see it, is a statement (or celebration of intent) of making a permanent commitment. Such a statement is reflects a strong personal passion, and this is why using the term 'marriage' is important to many gays, and why more simply expressed 'civil union' is not held as highly.

Nevertheless, at least in the eyes of government, I do not see where marriages or civil unions should be considered anything other than the same. The government should only be responsible for recognizing the legal status of a joined couple. The semantics are of no legal importance, and governments should not attempt to make any differentiation between the two. It is still a marital union, and should be so recognized.

That differentiation belongs to the narrow minded, and the various churches which would condemn such unions. They are entitled to their views, but have no moral superiority or moral right to interfere with the marital union of any two people who wish to make a lasting commitment to one another. The churches, and their adherents do not have to honor the marital commitments of gay couples, but the government certainly must honor and protect these couples marital rights.

jt

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Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 1:48pmSanction this postReply
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Whatever happened to the Objectivist view that people are individuals and should be treated as such? Current laws are an extension of the "Nanny State" and are designed to "encourage" marriage by giving tax and other concessions. In my view, individuals in either a marriage or a civil union should be treated by the state as if they were single and they can arrange their financial affairs in any way they see fit. Dependent children could still be a deduction in the same way that a single mother can deduct her child.

The emotional aspects could still be observed but they don't need to have state sanction. Marriage should be outside the purview of the state.

Sam


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Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 2:32pmSanction this postReply
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Sam,

Yes, but there are other legal aspects... couples own property jointly, effectively have power of attorney for signing personal contracts, have custodial rights on such issues as health (when partner is unable to make such decisions), etc. In these respects, official recognition is essential.

jt

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Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 5:07pmSanction this postReply
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Visit Unmarried for a different take.

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