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November 2, 2004

The Matter Of Matt by Lindsay Perigo

Most of the time I have kept quiet, in the interests of free & open discussion, which is part of Objectivism as it might be and ought to be. Occasionally I have exploded - & then the issue has become ... not appeasement, not Saddamism, not the filth that is Islam, not the mass torture/murder that Osama/Saddam want to install in place of everything we hold dear ... none of those things ... the issue has become: Linz hurt someone's feelings. (Read more...)
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Friday, November 5, 2004 - 10:31pm

Adam - you may expect a visit from Sciabarra's well-built Brooklyn-based Sicilian nephews very soon. Only one dude gets to speak Polish here, & it's Dr. Diabolical himself. An' he don't like no compatishun.

Cass - I fear you do me a grave injustice. I am *much* more disgusting than you portray me as. Next to me, Hitler was an angel. On a scale of evil, I am a trillion out of ten. And that's not including the axe-murders or kitten-drownings in my spare time. But you're missing out on all the fun by posting here. Over on your mentor's forum, I've heard, they're having a competition to see who's the most rabid Linz-basher. I'm told, quite seriously, that Linz is the only subject they post about. All three of them - the virgin birther, the phascist & your mentor. But I'm also hearing that they're running out of ammo. Post these new insights I've just supplied you with & *you* might win the contest!

Now seriously, I echo Jeanine's best wishes in the matter of the traumas you refer to. And regarding recent developments, if you e-mail me privately at editor@freeradical.co.nz I'll show you something you really ought to see.

Linz

Friday, November 5, 2004 - 10:40pm

Sorry Cam - looks as though our posts crossed. You've just given me my best belly-laugh of the day ... & there've been a few!!

Linz-Monster

Friday, November 5, 2004 - 11:22pm

Cameron-

Oh, Salud! Salud! I am quite appalled by Msr. Firehammer's abuses of philosophy. (though he has such a ~kewl~ name!) But more importantly, brilliant satire... let's not forget the use of the word "perversion" every three seconds and... a strange... horrified... fascination... with... *anal sex* (stare in horror... long stare...   long, deep stare.... ) Not to mentions his lengthy explorations into eternal subjects such as "Why Lindsay Perigo Hates Me"... and does this guy ever do anything except 'fulfill our obligations'. Seneca? Aquinas? Kant? C.S. Lewis? No... it's Ayn Rand... somehow... oh, and the insistence that there only two kinds of sex, the worthless kind, and breeding (sorry for the rude word, most heterosexuals don't deserve it, Regi does; Rand said the same thing in "On Living Death"). It's amazing what an obsessive imagination he has with "what homosexuals do" and what a poor one he has as to how anything not sanctioned by the holy mission could be pleasurable. But I suppose he is busy fulfilling his obligations. Strange, I use more imagination fulfilling mine.

But I would disagree very strongly that the Autonomists resemble the Autons, save in name... the Autons were too quiet.

They are clearly Cybermen:

     "You humans have a weakness in your feelings.
       We are fortunate. We do not possess feelings."

Bonus question for the Whovians here: can anyone think of any recent residents here who might bear a strong resemblance to the Daleks? Hint: their favorite word is hard to forget...

OK, I confess, I'm taking out some revenge here. "Let man be delivered from revenge! That to me is the bridge to the highest hope" - Nietzsche.   Yeah, yeah, Friedrich, right. Two words: Lou Salome. Actually, two more: Cosima Wagner. But Freddy, (I paraphrase) "evil is woman's greatest strength."

OK, I'm calling it a night. I've been working on my new 'weapons belt' for work all day. I can carry twice as much gear as my competitors if I carry my first work purse on my waist, plus I have a full toolset for impromptu work. And I just love the gypsyish fantasy adventurer "pouches of spell components" look! And now it looks pretty enough for higher track work... I'm ready to up my markets (once some personal health issues recover). I'm wondering if I can rig it to work as a semi-corset (yes, some sex workers, and 'transsexuals', do use corsets in contemporary times; so do a few women, some kinksters, and a surprising number of men). Still... these things are going to be Hell going through airport security, which are famous for harassing escorts with sex toys "because they can" (airport personnel know how to spot call girls they could spot me at a glance the last time I flew) .

Allright, g'night and smooches to you all.

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Jeanie Ring ))(*)(( - "not all those who wander are lost"

Friday, November 5, 2004 - 11:30pm

Jeanie, dear - such a shame you dislike Regi so. One would have thought "Firehammer" & "Ring" were made for each other!

As Nietzsche might say, "Honour thy fate!"

Linz

Friday, November 5, 2004 - 11:45pm

Jeanie,

You're wonderful. The Cybermen quote was spot on! Any Doctor Who aficionada is a friend of mine.

I think we should ditch Objectivism. Doctor Who clearly has all the answers!

As for fetish things going off at airports, and of Cybermen... one day I might tell you the story about a certain Objectivist going through a metal detector at Beijing Airport...

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 12:00am

Ah, yes, the Autonomist. Where one is considered "pointless and idiotic" unless one spouts deeply philosophical inquiries at every turn. Where one is maligned for discussing aesthetic pleasures, or heaven forbid, for admitting that one likes sex and actually *talking* about it. Where flirting is considered to be only for those of high-school age or below.

And if one equates (Egads!) food and sensuality, it is back to the prehistoric swamp.

Get a life.

(Edited by Jennifer Iannolo on 11/06, 12:03am)

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 12:00am

"Oh, Salud! Salud! I am quite appalled by Msr. Firehammer's abuses of philosophy. (though he has such a ~kewl~ name!) "

You know, it would be a GREAT name for a caterwauling heavy metal band...

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 12:21am

Go for it, Joe! That would be poetic justice in more ways than one. Hahaha!

Linz

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 12:28am

The pyrotechnics would HAVE to be great, for starters!

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 12:51am

Of course, Jeanine would have to do the vocals. In fact, *all* throat-work.

Diabolical could do the drumming.

Cresswell does a great droning bass. (Off-key, but that wouldn't matter.)

Adam B would be on keyboard.

Adam R could do Polish subtitles.

Linz would do running commentary/denunciation.

Jennifer would be in charge of tomato-throwing.

Luther could supply Floridian chorus-backing.

Oy! We might be on to something. Ten-Inch Objectivists!

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 1:07am

Jeanine, I am SO GLAD you struck back at last!

Barbara

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 3:07am

Lindsay:
Over on your mentor's forum, I've heard, they're having a competition to see who's the most rabid Linz-basher. I'm told, quite seriously, that Linz is the only subject they post about. All three of them - the virgin birther, the phascist & your mentor. But I'm also hearing that they're running out of ammo.

1. I don't have a "mentor". I'm actually quite grown up.

2. Here is a list of the first lot of articles I scrolled down on on the Autonomist Wesbsite just now.

"Is Politics the Answer?" Scott Kauzlarich
"The Bogeyman is Gone" Chuck Baldwin (re Kerry)
"Animal lovers and others" Alan Camba (re Animal rights activists)
"The Moral Case against Taxations" David MacGregor
"Pride Goeth before a Parade" Burt Prelutsky (Gay parades)
"The Autonomist Philosophy Series, Part Three, Feelings and Desires"
Regi Firehammer
"Almost Too late" W.James AntleIII (Politics)
"I have a Plan" Ron Paul
"Country Club Anxieties' Paul Driessen (About the rise of Malaria in Kenya following the US and UHCF and UN banning of the use of Pesticide in that country).
"Solo Perversion of Objectivism" (which starts off, "The real issue with Perigos' version of Objectivism is the rational / volitional nature of man" ie a philosophical debate) Regi Firehammer
"It's time to evict the UN" Burt Prelutsky
"Moralizing Environmental Dogma is Immoral" - The Deadly consequencs of Green Policies" Calvin Beisener. Ph.D. and Rabbi Daniel Lapin.
Plus a whole heap more I couldn't be bothered copying.
So, devoted wholy to Solo and Homosexuality?? It doesn't look like it from here.

3. I have participated in a debate at the Autonomist about what sort of things the mind is capable of, based on my recent viewing of "A Beautiful Mind" watched with Ron Howards' (producer) commentary. The discussion is about John Nash and the movie. So, no, discussion of you Lindsay is NOT "all they have to talk about".

4. Again, everything Regi has written has attacked no person on personalities, but on philosophical statements.

5. I note above the "humour" about Regi Firehammers' name. It supports totally my comments about the sophomoric sort of posts tolerated here under the banner of "a sense of life". Firehammer is a real name, as a quick search on the Net would show. There are heaps of them out there, a jazz musician among them, so you've been beaten to the punch with your band scenario. It is an anglicized corruption of an old Middle European name. So, you go ahead and mock someone for their name.!!!
Here's one. Hewitt is a corruption of an old french name meaning "one who lives in a clearing in the woods". You should have fun with that, but I've a better. My maiden name was Bean. Yep. Great for schoolyard humour. I grew up in primary schools with it all. "Hey, she's just a jumping bean - no really, are you green. yeh, you're a green bean - not really, I bet she's a BAKED bean. Ahhahahahahahahahahahahah"
And here it is again. Primary schoolyard mocking of a persons' name.
Well done Soloists. You're doing the name of Objectivism proud.
Cass

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 3:09am

Incidentally, Thankyou Jeanine and Lindsay for your kind words regarding my personal traumas.
Cass

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 4:05am

Cass: "Everything Regi has written has attacked no person or personalities, but only philosophical statements."

Regi on Barbara, a few samples:

"Barbara Branden's disgraceful display . . . "

"The duplicitous Barbara Branden. . ."

"It has occurred to me since writing that, it is not the only mistake she [Barbara] made with Nathaniel Branden, and this, 'repression,' nonsense is no doubt part of the rationalization of that other mistake."

Regi on Lindsay, a VERY few examples:

"In my book I praised the character, sincerity, and honor of Lindsay Perigo. That was an egregious distortion of the truth, and I sincerely apologize for it."

"Perigo and company are not the first to promote sexual promiscuity in the name of Objectivism."

"The licentious Mr. Perigo. . ."

"His methods and style are those he learned as a communist."

About Solo:"Sex and homosexuality are its dominant themes."

And so forth and so forth and so forth.

Barbara

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 6:51am

But I would disagree very strongly that the Autonomists resemble the Autons, save in name... the Autons were too quiet.

That and the fact that the Autons were plastic automatons under the control of a powerful collective intelligence that looked like a giant green squid.

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 9:15am

Cass, before Linz gets the chance to bite your head off faster than Ozzy eats bats, I am going to ask you calm down. No one is "mocking" the name. (Just the person.) We like the name, Jeanine said it was a shame that it belonged to the person. It is a powerful name, for me it conjures images of Vikings, Hammers of the gods, etc. (And in the rock music world, we appreciate any good euphumsism for our...guitars...with the hard wood necks...[I play bass!]
And you miss the subtlties here; I am a caterwauler. I WOULD use that as a band name, or a song title, at least. And there would be pyrotechnics. (NO SPANDEX OR HAIRSPRAY, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!) And Linz could be in the pit, shouting "BOO! PLAY LANZA!" which would be a refreshing change from "PLAY FREEBIRD!".
(And since I am a prog rock geek, I would have to have a few daleks running around the stage, very Spinal Tap...)

Unfortunately, there would be no female groupies for Regi, since I am one of them there homersexuals...so it would be more of a Greek orgy than a Roman Bacchanal...
(Edited by Joe Maurone on 11/06, 9:17am)

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 10:22am

Oh, Joe-

But if by 'Greek' you mean 'Hellenic', your symposiae would have to have quite a lot of heterosexuals doing... 'what... heterosexuals... do'. [|||shudder!!|||] The only difference would be that the female heterosexuals involved would be either slaves or prostitutes. And, as a matter of courtesy, your own sexual preferences should not lead you to forget the variant tastes of your guests!  Would you dare slight hospitality?

But if you were to launch a tour for Firehammer, you would clearly want intellectual quality and need a certified hetaera for the festivities. Unfortunately, they're somewhat scarce today, and you won't find anyone who's both fully hetaera and fully Objectivist.  Yet I confess I'm merely a certified Wacky Feminist, nothing more; I wish I could help you there. Perhaps a later time.

As for vocals, I'd enthusiastically take such a commission, as I have been practising my singing voice. Besides, most people do not know how to hold a microphone; I suggest two hands locked in butterfly position plus base tension, thumbs underneath in figure-8 rotation. That said, if you put me on a stage, thou shalt not provide a chair for me to sit on, or I claim no responsibility for what might then occur. And if some sneaky bastard leaves a chalice under said chair I will hurt them and fine them for opportunity costs.

As a final note, to Msr... no, to his majesty Perigo, since the Autons have informed me that we are all of us sycophant courtiers here, I must ask a serious question.  Does his majesty prefer a royal "Henry", an Imperial "Alex", or you prefer a more Periclean designation according to your democratist style?  The girl just has to know the manners of a time.

amused,

Pyrophora Cypriana   )(*)(
promiscuity of the mind leads to promiscuity of the body

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 1:09pm

Jeanie, dear - such a shame you dislike Regi so. One would have thought "Firehammer" & "Ring" were made for each other!

As Nietzsche might say, "Honour thy fate!"

Linz

I reply;

Three for the Elvenkings, under the sky
Seven for the dwarf lords, in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal men, doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord, on his Dark Throne

One Ring to rule them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them

In the Land of Mordor where the shadows lie....
[the ring-verse from Tolkien]

I say no more.

Jeanine Ring ))(*)(( - "not all those who wander are lost"

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 1:38pm

Barbara wrote:
>Cass, I do not begin to understand how you can take Regi Firehammer seriously. This is a man who insists that there is no such thing as the subconscious, no such thing as repression, that they are "mystical nonsense"....

Yes, Barbara, those were true gems - like an old vaudeville entertainer, with Firehammer there was a laugh in every line. But there were so many others! Let's not forget the time he "proved", via hilariously inept 2-1=2 type math, that was "no such thing" as the free-rider problem in economics. And his classic assertion that you could have 3/8ths of a dead dog, but not 3/8ths of a live one - as if fractional mathematics was dependent upon the health of its subject!

And of course, who could forget philosophic insights like this one:

"But for any organism, to be means�to be�the kind of organism an organism is--not just the perpetuation of protoplasm"

And so on. Now that he resides permanently over at The Autoeroticist, I admit I miss the light relief. But, like the old joke goes, the average intelligence of both sites has now increased.

- Daniel

Saturday, November 6, 2004 - 4:35pm

Ugh!
currently feeling violently sick.
there you go george, you got your 100 posts.
and my last
Cass