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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:01amSanction this postReply
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Great article, stylishly written.  Would like to have seen a stronger finish.

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:27amSanction this postReply
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Hi Eve,

I think that Peter Pan had his childhood stolen from him by his mother, who abandoned him.  He had to fend for himself too soon; and went off to bond with other "lost: boys.

I think that your article shows;  what I've been heard repeating, without knowing the true meaning until this moment;


IF YOU DON'T BABY A BABY WHEN HE'S A BABY;  YOU'LL HAVE TO BABY HIM ALL THE REST OF HIS LIFE! 





We get too soon old, and too late smart.      Sharon 
(Edited by Sharon Romagnoli Macdonald on 6/26, 8:30am)


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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 12:20pmSanction this postReply
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Growing up is not growing old, nor is it taking on responsibility. Growing up is losing one's "soul"; one's love of life. As Bob Palin has beautifully demonstrated time and again, age is not a cause of grup. I, for one, hope Bob never grows up.

Sarah

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 6:13pmSanction this postReply
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Sarah,


Your check is in the mail.


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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:39pmSanction this postReply
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Nice article Eve.

Times sure have changed. When I was at Boston University in the early 70's, I couldn't wait to get out into the real world. Most people I knew couldn't either.

I missed this Peter Pan metamorphosis in American youth while I was away.

Do you think videogames and remote control have something to do with that?

Michael


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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 6:24amSanction this postReply
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Michael,

What if it were something more insidious; something like ................................

                                          
                                                                                               little league team sports?

Sharon

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:19amSanction this postReply
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Sarah,

See, I don't think "growing up" should mean losing one's soul or love of life, any more than "selfish" should imply ruthlessly harming other people for any small gain.  These are both meanings that weren't inherent in the terms themselves before people who feared them or didn't understand them recast them into a negative light.

Accepting the bastardized definitions endorses the twisted ideas behind them.  Embracing the terms as they ought to be by saying that one is "proud to be selfish" or "thrilled to be growing up" draws attention to the insidious concepts that are otherwise accepted without question.

What is welfare statism, after all, but the belief that adults shouldn't have to be responsible, but instead should be allowed to be careless ("carefree") and child-like their entire lives?


Sharon,

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the book with me.  I'm fairly certain, though, that the story has baby Peter not being abandoned, but running away after the first time he hears that he will someday grow up, since he wants to remain a child and have fun forever.

I think I also remember Peter flying back to his old nursery window on occasion, to see that it was still left open and that his mother still waited for him to return.  Finally, after many years, he came back one time and found the nursery window closed and a new baby in the crib that used to be his.  I have trouble feeling much sympathy for Peter, though, on account of him playing such a cruel trick on his poor parents.


Michael,

I honestly don't know what the most prevalent cause of "not wanting to grow up" is.  I hesitate to blame video games, since I've had so little contact with them myself, and since my second-hand observations are inconclusive.  (Some of the adults I know who still play video games are anti-adulthood; others aren't.)  Part of it might just be a reaction to the fact that "grown up" has a negative connotation.

Thanks for the compliment!


Robert,

I appreciate the feedback; I'll try to work on my conclusions.


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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:50amSanction this postReply
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Peter Pan is a paen to anti-industrialization... it equates earning a livelihood as an evil - albeit a necessary one - and a longing for the Christian view of being like a lily of the field, 'who neither weave nor care, yet are taken care of'... in other words, being a dependent being...

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 5:26pmSanction this postReply
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Eve,

I "was" incorrect about Peter. 

It was, in fact James Barrie who was deprived of his mother, who became despondent after the death of her eldest son at age 13, when the young Barrie was only six. As a result Barrie himself never "grew up"  preferring the company of  real children; and  unable to consummate his marriage of fifteen years. A Michael Jackson prototype; who seems to have had his childhood stolen from him by the music industry.

Perhaps Elizabeth Taylor, another child star, "does" know the real Michael Jackson.

Thanks for sending me to the source.

Sharon

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