|And many of these Zionists have said that they want to restore Israel to its borders of Biblical times. This is much larger than what Israel currently is. Sheldon Richman has an excellent comment on his blog:
American commentators seem ignorant of or blind to Israeli attacks on civilians—such as those carried out repeatedly in Egypt, Gaza, and Jordan in the 1950s and 1960s, and, with even greater frequency, against civilians in the occupied territories and Lebanon in the 1970s, 1980s and today. Nor do US observers or "terrorism experts" seem to be aware of the abuse of Muslim and Christian civilians during the 1948 war, such as the mass expulsions at gunpoint of the inhabitants of Lydda, Ramle and a large number of other Palestinian villages. (See Benny Morris's new book, 1948 and After: Israel and the Palestinians.) It took the fullscale invasion of Lebanon and the ghastly bombardment of Beirut in 1982 to get the media to notice, even briefly. Since then, they have lapsed into their previous pattern.
Many, many Palestinians belong to a religious group whose leaders are on record wanting to annihilate Israel and Jews and Americans because they have give support to them. And they raise their children to embrace the hostility to Israel.And many Israelis want to annihilate them, along with Lebanese Christians. Consider also the actions of the Stern Gang, who actually wanted to collaborate with the Nazis against the British in WW2. Consider the actions of Irgun, a group which included Monachem Begin. Irgun bombed the King David Hotel in 1946. Some Israelis actually celebrated the 60th anniversary of this bombing earlier this year. They also bombed a British embassy in Rome and assassinated a minister in Cairo in 1944.
The Zionists have taken violence outside of Israel for many years now, so their actions in Lebanon should come as no surprise. What is still amazing is that they still have so many apologists, especially on a board called "rebirth of reason."
I would not argue that Israel's system of laws accords with the principles of the US Declaration, classical liberal due process, etc.They don't even come close.
But neither do the laws of France, Germany, the UK, and hundreds of other countries do this.Some of these countries, however, are not constantly picking fights. Israel is and is encouraged to do so by the corrupt men in the District of Criminals.
That isn't the case with Palestinians, to the best of my understanding. They are a group by virtue of their chosen beliefs and these include wiping out Israel.When you consider what Israel does, can you blame them?
So apartheid and the security measures against Palestinians are very different policies from a moral/political standpoint.Many apologists for slavery in America used to think the same way. After Nat Turner's rebellion, they feared that if slaves were freed, the newly freed slaves would rise up and kill all the white people. Something like that had occurred in Haiti.
That wasn't a justification for slavery. It's certainly not a justification for what is going on Israel now.
The first thing Israel should do is embrace free market principles. But that won't happen. A free market would bring about peace, commerce, and good relations among the different groups there. A free market goes against the principles of Zionism, which are inherently collectivist.
(Edited by Chris Baker on 9/06, 11:29pm)