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Post 60

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:13amSanction this postReply
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I received this bizarre e-mail today from johnhenryreed@yahoo.com that seemed relevant to this thread:

Dear Lutherfer,

Thank you for outing me on RoR. I have seen the error of my ways and I am enjoying a new life as an Aristotlian-Slap-Stick-Practical-Joke Artist. I got the idea from Sean Connery's character in The Name of the Rose and a fellow formerly known as John Flinn. As a tribute to "John", I have started a chain-letter, promising all the standard benefits and implied curses in his other name. If successful, he should soon start receiving postcards from all around the world. Think nothing of it.


Sincerely,
Lutherfer@hotmail.com


I make it a policy of not publishing private e-mails along with the sender's name unless, of course, I clearly do not welcome them and they are sent simply to annoy me.

This one falls into that category.

A few minutes later I received this:

From John Flinn Tue Mar 17 05:27:16 2009
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Subject: Your contractual obligation as Director of RIBI
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:27:16 -0400
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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: John Flinn
To: luthersetzer@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:27:16 AM
Subject: Your contractual obligation as Director of RIBI

Dear Mr. John Flint, Director of RIBI
a/k/a Luther Setzer
a/k/a Luke Setzer

Sir, you contracted with me under our RIBI agreement to provide me and my loved ones the product and service you called biological immortality for consideration received and acknowledged. That you, "Dr. Wallace", "Barbie Diamond", "Rosa Maria", "Eric Savage". "Mark Hamilton". "Drew Ellis" et al, thereafter ran into difficulties -- apparently created by you and/or Dr. Wallace's jilted lover -- is of no consequence to me or my family whatsoever. Further, having read and fully digested your "mia culpa" I find it particularly offensive that you have abandoned your obligation to me to engage in a pursuit of little worth. Therefore, I shall seek every remedy under the law to compel you to fulfill your obligation. As my father is nearing his final days, I highly suggest you return to your work. I assure you that this is no joke.

Esek


I reported him to Hotmail abuse.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 3/17, 5:37am)


Post 61

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 10:22amSanction this postReply
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I have to say, had I known the caliber of the individual in question, I would have never posted. I am sorry that you are having to deal with this bullshit.

Post 62

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 2:53pmSanction this postReply
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These people are seriously disturbed.

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Post 63

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 5:30amSanction this postReply
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Microsoft to the rescue!

Hello Luther,

Thank you for writing to Windows Live Hotmail Customer Support. This is Jill and I gather that you want to report an unsolicited e-mail message. I understand the inconvenience this may have caused you and I recognize the importance of your concern.

Luther, I appreciate the information you have provided us. I have closed the account, lutherfer@hotmail.com which you reported, in accordance with our Terms of Use (TOU). It is a strict violation of the TOU for our members to send objectionable or unwanted material of any kind or nature using our service.

To view our rules and regulations, visit the following Web site:

http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=tou&mkt=en-us

You are valuable at Windows Live Hotmail, and we look forward to providing you with consistent and effective service. We appreciate your input and involvement in our Windows Live products.

Sincerely,

Jill F.
Windows Live Hotmail Customer Support


Post 64

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 9:58pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you.  Very informative.  Yet another group of nuts for my catalog.  I find this useful, if for nothing else than to put the companys's name on a template for court in advance.

Who are these people?  This requires some investigation.  Whoever they are this thread draws them like flies to a dung pile, which begs the question.  Why the thread?  They'll just keep coming, to what end?  Therapy, conversion to sanity, or comedy?  This is very disturbing.  Why bring them here?

I understand Mr. Setzer's desire for catharsis, and there is nothing like a good mental enema, but my experience at the Firm of Sandbag and Smear causes me to hesitate to make such public declarations because it's prediscovery on a silver plater.  True, going by the dates listed, any possible suit the one kook raddles sabers about, would most likely be barred by any governing statute.  Still, "loose lips sink ships."  And the whole idea he raves about, biologic immortalness, would no doubt bring on the snicker attacks, but I've seen crazy things before.  Why bother? 

Another tack is to give them a sense of having been heard.  It validates their nonsense to themselves and they usually go away.  Taunting them however, brings out the crusader in them.  Unless you're running some kind of intervention and deprogamming here, again why bother?


Post 65

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 4:10amSanction this postReply
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Luke's warning about them, and their matrix, is well received on this end.



Post 66

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 1:03pmSanction this postReply
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I'm getting Luke's stalker writing me now! I don't know how he attracts such a devoted following.

Post 67

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 1:09pmSanction this postReply
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the heads up.  But maybe I'm more of a pragmatist than an objectivist in this regard.  I live in a world of kooks.  But I don't have to invite them over for dinner.

Post 68

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 1:22pmSanction this postReply
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My point in spades, Mr. Rowlands.

Post 69

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 2:39pmSanction this postReply
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Point made, Samuel.

Post 70

Monday, March 1, 2010 - 5:52amSanction this postReply
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I received this e-mail in French last night:

bonjour
je fait suis à vôtre résumé sur: http://attitudeadjustment.tripod.com/Essays/NT-Attention.htm
je n'ai plus confiance en Néo-tech, il m'ont détruit,.j'ai étudié cette litérature pendant 10 années (1990-2000). le résultats était négatif car j'ai perdu tous mes dents à cause cette litérature d'escroque. j'aurai aimé les poursuivre en justice, mais il sont trop loin et cela me coute cher.
salut
jean claude
www.monana.net
ci-dessus c'est mmon site


Babelfish translated it this way:

hello I make with yours am summarized on: http://attitudeadjustment.tripod.com/Essays/NT-Attention.htm I n' rely more on Néo-tech, it m' destroyed, .j' studied this litérature during 10 years (1990-2000). the results was negative because j' lost all my teeth because this litérature d' swindle. j' will have liked to prosecute them, but it are too far and that is expensive to me. hello Jean Claude www.monana.net above c' is my site

Can someone who speaks French help me with this?

Post 71

Monday, March 1, 2010 - 8:55amSanction this postReply
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The original is nearly as weird as the translation.  Doing some conjectural cleaning-up, I get:

I saw your résumé on ...  I no longer have confidence in Neo-tech.  They have destroyed me.  I studied this literature for 10 years (1990-2000).  The results were negative, for I lost all my teeth because of this literature of swindle/ripoff.  I would have like to take them to court, but they're too far away and it would cost too much.

No idea what the remark about losing teeth means, but that's what it says.  Maybe he means that the text started out as ordinary, grammatical French, but it got garbled when he forgot to put his dentures in before reading it to a voice-recognition program.


Post 72

Monday, March 1, 2010 - 9:43amSanction this postReply
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It's an idiom, like loosing one's shirt or one's marbles.

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Post 73

Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 8:51amSanction this postReply
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I agree.  It's one of the most idiomatic phrases I've ever seen.

Post 74

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 10:19amSanction this postReply
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Deleted.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 4/30, 2:49pm)


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Post 75

Saturday, October 1, 2011 - 8:42pmSanction this postReply
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I first read Neo-Tech in 1988. I found it to be a pretty good primer setting me on a path of self education with the books on the recommended reading list. I of course read Nietzche, Kant and Hegel as well even though I found it painful!

Nice site Luke, very nice to meet like minded rational individuals.



Post 76

Sunday, October 2, 2011 - 11:17amSanction this postReply
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Welcome, Jules!

What books by Ayn Rand have you read?

Please consider completing an Extended Profile so we can know a little more about you.

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Post 77

Tuesday, October 4, 2011 - 9:20pmSanction this postReply
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Ok will do!
I have read
The Virtue of Selfishness, Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal, The Romantic Manifesto, Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead and The Voice of Reason.

Other books I enjoyed were FlimFlam, The Origins of consciousness and the breakdown of the bicameral mind (REally wish he would have made the sequel)
The ominous parallels ...I don't think there is a day that goes by that I don't ponder what was written in that book and I read it over 20 years ago..

I am posting from my phone while I'm at work between actual work!

Luke I gotta say I damn..wish that I had stumbled across this site years ago.
Only person that I could ever talk with about anything that ever even had the mental accumen to even grasp objectivism has died of old age until I met my wife(she has her masters in english literature and is a talented artist as well).







Post 78

Monday, April 16, 2012 - 5:06amSanction this postReply
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I received this today:

Mister Luke, Je vous ecris pour vous parler au sujet de neotech. La decouverte du docteur Wallace est due au lien qui a surtout ete fait entre l’objectiivisme randien et la theorie de l’esprit bicameral. Ses conclusion ne sont pas hasardeuses. Et il est alle plus loint en parlant d’immortalite biologique comme etant le but d’un esprit conscient et si vous vous interessez a ce domaine, nous serons immortels vers 2100 au plus. Pour ce qui est de la civilization de l’univers, il existe dans notre univers ainsi que dans les autres, qui sont a un nombre infini, des societies tellement avanceees que nous ne pouvons pas imaginer de quoi ells sont capable. Neotech repond au fardeau de la verite, c’est a dire que tout y est demontre. Biensur il faut faire des recherché, car le livre the neo tech discovery est une sorte de concentre de 20 ns d’etudes, il serait impossible de tout mettre dedans. Desole de vous ecrire en francais mais mon anglaais est faible. Cordialement.

Per an online translator:

Mister Luke, I write to you to speak myself about neotech. The discovery of Doctor Wallace is due to the bond which especially was made between the objectiivism randien and the theory of the bicameral spirit. Its conclusion are not hazardous. And it is ale more loint while speaking about biological immortality as being the goal of a conscious spirit and if you are interested has this field, we will be immortal towards 2100 at the maximum. As regards the civilization of the universe, there exists in our universe like in the others, which are has an infinite number, societies so much avanceees that we cannot imagine what ells is able. Neotech answers the burden of the truth, i.e. that all east shows there. Biensur it is necessary to make the required one, because the book the neo tech discovery is a kind of concentrates of 20 NS of studies, it would be impossible all to put inside. Afflicted to write to you in French but my anglaais is weak. Cordially.

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Monday, April 16, 2012 - 2:21pmSanction this postReply
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His Francais could use some work, too.

I would amend the translation (which had to work around the writer's bad grammar and spelling) thus:

- not hazardous: not by chance, no accident

- And it is ale more loint while speaking: and it [the theory, presumably] has gone further in speaking

- interested has this field: interested in this field

- what ells is able: what they're capable of

all east shows there: everything is demonstrated there

- Biensur it is necessary to make the required one: indeed, research is required

- 20 NS: 20 years

- Afflicted: sorry
(Edited by Peter Reidy on 4/16, 6:31pm)


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