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Friday, January 13, 2012 - 5:46pmSanction this postReply
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Concise and easily understandable by all, very well written Ed.

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Thanks, Jules.

This essay is actually meant as a base for a broader project of mine. A while back, I wrote an article* about how there are approximately 4 main, moral viewpoints out in the world, and that perhaps all moral views fit down into, or reduce down into, one of those 4 views. Now, this essay is about metaphysics. It is about what you have to say about reality.

My contention is that there is at least a high probability that if you have a certain metaphysics (a. idealism, b. realism, c. pragmatism, or d. existentialism) then, by extension, you will have -- if questioned thoroughly -- a related ethics (a. deontology, b. natural law/virtue ethics, c. utilitarianism, or d. noncognitive emotivism). Now, I don't have it all worked out at the moment. It is a work in progress. I'm hoping to get input from folks here. On that note, here is my rough-draft questionaire for sorting-out by what kind of principles we -- either intentionally or just passively -- order our lives:

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Thompson Worldview Sorter, 2nd revision, January 2012
 

Choose the best answer ... 

1. It's best to envision man as

a) flawed
b) a hero
c) compassionate
d) a victim
 

2. The universe is

a) a helpful friend
b) knowable
c) a mystery
d) dangerous
 

3. The "good" is something that

a) exists independently of man
b) exists in relation to man
c) minimizes pain and suffering
d) is different for everyone 


4. The moral purpose of your life should be

a) service to a greater good
b) your happiness, as measured over your whole life
c) to minimize pain and suffering
d) your immediate, narrow-range interests and desires 


5. The noblest activity would be

a) practicing humility
b) productive achievement
c) sacrifice
d) opportunistic exploitation
 

6. Reason is

a) not as important as faith
b) at least as important as anything else in our lives
c) not as important as empathy
d) not as important as desire
 

7. Man knows things by means of

a) becoming a humble receptor for the universe's transmissions
b) reason, applied to sensory experience
c) tabulating the relative frequencies of the outcomes of narrow experiments
d) introspection into one's own feelings about them
 

8. Perception is

a) inherently distorting
b) a direct pickup of environmental variance
c) indirect (sense-data theory), and therefore, potentially distorting
d) one's own reality
 

9. The ideal social system is

a) benevolent despotism/dictatorship (rule of the one)
b) laissez-faire capitalism (rule of law)
c) a mixed economy (rule of the few -- a bureaucratic elite)
d) democracy (rule of the mob)
 

10. Philosophy meets our need of

a) contemplation of the highest good
b) providing a framework for action
c) materially-fruitless, distracting word games
d) self-expression 



11. Philosophic axioms are

a) intrinsic knowledge
b) an antidote to arbitrary conjectures and thoughts
c) true, but irrelevant to the always-compartmentalized acquisition of knowledge**
d) true, but irrelevant to what really matters in life (i.e., the will-to-power)**
 

12. Existence is

a) intrinsic
b) expressed only through identity
c) relative
d) subjective
 

13. Causality is

a) a knowable intrinsic, tying observable events together
b) identity in action
c) an unknowable intrinsic, supposedly tying observable events together
d) subjective; a person's will is the only meaningful cause in existence
 

14. Consciousness is

a) passive intuition, or memory of the "eternal"
b) objective (identification of reality)
c) socially-subjective (more powerful when shared by a group)
d) individually subjective (your unique interpretation creates your actual reality)  


15. The mind is

a) an entity unto itself (ontologically independent)
b) an aspect of man
c) a useful fiction, a licentious but colorful way to talk about the firings of neurons
d) naked will-power 


16. Concepts are

a) intrinsic knowledge; knowable to the few who are humble and meek enough
b) what allow for objectivity; knowable to all who perform the correct method of thinking
c) subjective; objects inside of our minds, rather than a universal method of awareness used by our minds (in order to comprehend the one, true reality)
d) relative; relative to our striving for power in the world
 

17. Definitions are

a) intrinsic (unrelated to our level of knowledge)
b) objective, factual, and necessary
c) subjective, and therefore, relative
d) limiting and useless
 

18. Rationality is

a) what governs the universe
b) the volitional use of logic
c) computation (including the non-volitional computation of a computer)
d) a pipe dream (because we're all just hairy bags of salt water and emotion, anyway) 

 

19. Justice is best served by

a) reform (by making the punishment fit the man)
b) retribution (where a wrong is righted, because the punishment fits the crime)
c) deterrence (it reforms society by setting harsh examples out of the first criminals caught)
d) restitution (because it makes the victim feel better) 


20. Pride is

a) sinful
b) building the kind of character, through habitual action, that makes your life worth sustaining and underlies all other achievement
c) haughty and arrogant
d) morally optional
 

21. Altruism is

a) what God wants from us
b) about sacrificing yourself
c) about helping others who are more needy than you are
d) needed for benevolence or good will among men
 

22. Individual rights are

a) God-given
b) metaphysical requirements for human happiness in society
c) rights to the product of the efforts of others (rights to enslave)
d) not required (we can be happy without them)
 

23. Morality is

a) God-given
b) required for success in the world
c) only important when dealing with others
d) whatever you want it to be
 

24. The use of force or fraud when dealing with others is

a) evil, but practical
b) destructive to the condition of freedom needed by man to think and succeed
c) okay when it's done by the government
d) inevitable because of intrinsic human defects or conflicts of interest
 

25. Being a hero requires

a) moving mountains
b) progressively living truer to your own highest values
c) others' viewing you as a hero (in their eyes)
d) out-competing others 
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Now, I already see a problem with this thing not being perfect. For instance, in question # 12, it starts out "Existence is ..." and answers C and D ("relative" and "subjective") seem to be saying the same thing as each other. Keep in mind my motive, all C answers are supposed to be representative of the answers of a pragmatic utilitarian, and all D answers are supposed to be representative of an existentialist-emotivist. But, if you say existence is relative, then you usually mean it is relative to the subject (the person). In other words, you usually mean that it is subjective. In other words, under common use, relative and subjective appear to be synonyms.

Alternatively, I think I really nailed it on some of the questions -- for example, on question #6. That said, constructive criticism is highly welcomed.

:-)

Ed

*The 4 Main Kinds of Ethics: An Introduction

**Edit: Question 11 was changed after some discussion with Kyle (see posts 2 and 4 below)

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 1/14, 9:22am)


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Friday, January 13, 2012 - 9:22pmSanction this postReply
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Great way to identify one's worldview (quite fun too), however I had a major problem with one aspect of it.

This problem being the presentation of the 4 worldviews at the beginning of the project. Once I knew which answer corresponded with each worldview, I had a tendency to select the answers associated with realism. In other words, I selected the "how I would like my worldview to be" answer rather than the "how it actually is" answer. If I'm unable to identify my actual worldview, I won't be able to correct any errors.

This defeated the purpose of this project (at least for me) as a gauge of one's worldview. Therefore, I suggest presenting the corresponding worldviews at the end of the test.

Additionally, I thought Question 11. Answer D would be more fitting of a pragmatic, rather than existential, view of existence.

However, in spite my main complaint, I did discover some thing strange:

I sometimes drifted toward the other options more than I would have liked. I, especially, felt the pull of the existentialist answers. Maybe this pull is the left over allure of the ideas characterizing my teenage years, calling me back to them.....

Okay, I'm done for now (^_^;).... I'm going to bed.

Anyway, once this is refined, I will take it again and, hopefully, receive a more accurate assessment of my worldview.

Best regards.

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Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 5:55amSanction this postReply
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Ed, your links at the bottom don't work.

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Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 7:46amSanction this postReply
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Kyle,

This defeated the purpose of this project (at least for me) as a gauge of one's worldview. Therefore, I suggest presenting the corresponding worldviews at the end of the test.
Yeah, that will probably always be an issue. If this thing ever gets published as a philosophical tool then, as you suggest, the explanations will definitely have to come at the end. This is a problem with psychological tests, too. You can "retro-think" what it is that each question is asking -- and pick your answer based on your discovered abstraction (rather than just answering directly without thinking about the abstract nature of the question, itself).

Additionally, I thought Question 11. Answer D would be more fitting of a pragmatic, rather than existential, view of existence.
Here's that question:

11. Philosophic axioms are
a) intrinsic knowledge
b) an antidote to arbitrary conjectures and thoughts
c) true, but irrelevant to the acquisition of knowledge
d) just some more pedantic sophistry and illusion being excreted out of ivory towers
Yeah, I can see your point. Both a pragmatist and an existentialist don't "like" axioms, but for different reasons. An existentialist doesn't want to bother with axioms (as they're thought irrelevant to the will-to-power), and a pragmatist doesn't want to be bothered by them (while pursuing what truth they think they can pursue, by isolated experiments). I'll change that question around (and include your name in the Acknowledgements section of any future published product).

:-) 

Ed


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Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 8:20amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for the heads-up, Merlin. I fixed those links.

Ed


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Ed,

Thanks for the explanation.

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Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 12:56pmSanction this postReply
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A philosopher I wanted to mention in this article is David Hume.

Note: Project Gutenberg, which allowed me to search and quote original works such as Hume's (below), is totally awesome!

In my essay on the 4 main kinds of ethics, Hume is characterized as a noncognitive emotivist (a skepticist/subjectivist). Using rationalization along with empirical verification (rather than just using the armchair speculation of unsupported rationalization itself), then that would make Hume -- under my current contentions -- an existentialist. In order to verify the existence of that categorization as being the fact of the matter (rather than merely my opinion), I grabbed several quotes from Hume to see if it holds up to the data. I found that there was a time around 1751 (in: An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Morals) when Hume said things that only utilitarians say, instead of staying true to his original, noncognitive, emotivist moral stance. Beyond morality, there is the question of whether (and now: when) Hume was a pragmatist or an existentialist. Here's a timeline of relevant quotes:


Existentialist/Noncognitive-emotivist phase
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Date:
1939 (A Treatise of Human Nature)

Quote:
Let us fix our attention out of ourselves as much as possible: Let us chase our imagination to the heavens, or to the utmost limits of the universe; we never really advance a step beyond ourselves, nor can conceive any kind of existence, but those perceptions, which have appeared in that narrow compass.
Comment:
This 1739 quote -- which preceded Kiekegaard (the "Father" of Existentialism) -- appears to be the beginning of existentialism. If you can never really get beyond yourself, then you are likely the operational "center" of the universe. This is evidence of an existentialist's metaphysics.

Source:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4705/4705-h/4705-h.htm

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
Thus all probable reasoning is nothing but a species of sensation. It is not solely in poetry and music, we must follow our taste and sentiment, but likewise in philosophy. When I am convinced of any principle, it is only an idea, which strikes more strongly upon me. When I give the preference to one set of arguments above another, I do nothing but decide from my feeling concerning the superiority of their influence.

Comment:
This quote reveals Hume's early noncognitivism and emotivism, where even in philosophy (moral or otherwise), you "do nothing but decide from [your] feeling."

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
For my part, when I enter most intimately into what I call myself, I always stumble on some particular perception or other, of heat or cold, light or shade, love or hatred, pain or pleasure. I never can catch myself at any time without a perception, and never can observe any thing but the perception. When my perceptions are removed for any time, as by sound sleep; so long am I insensible of myself, and may truly be said not to exist.
Comment:
This is a common theme of existentialism. If existence is nothing other than raw, naked, intentional desire -- then you wouldn't be said to exist while you are asleep (because you would not be actively engaged in asserting your will against the sea of forces in the universe).

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
One thought chaces another, and draws after it a third, by which it is expelled in its turn. In this respect, I cannot compare the soul more properly to any thing than to a republic or commonwealth, in which the several members are united by the reciprocal ties of government and subordination, and give rise to other persons, who propagate the same republic in the incessant changes of its parts. And as the same individual republic may not only change its members, but also its laws and constitutions; in like manner the same person may vary his character and disposition, as well as his impressions and ideas, without losing his identity.

Comment:
This is another common theme of existentialism, where you get to make and re-make your soul in every moment and with every act. You could, for instance, commit a murder and be a murderer, and then -- without any explanation whatsoever -- you could change course, give flowers to a woman or candy to a child ... and become a "non-murderer." In court, you may try to defend yourself by saying that you tried murdering as a lifestyle, but didn't like the way it felt, so you became a non-murderer at that point (so it would be unjust to convict you).

The Moors Murderer (Ian Brady) is an example of this kind of a radical existentialist. Although, to his credit, he says he should never get parole. This is either because he thinks he doesn't deserve it, or because he fears the public would kill him as soon as he exited the prison gates. His partner in crime, Myra Hindley, faces a similar paradox. It is said that, after broad publicity of their horrible crimes, the name "Myra" was not given to a female baby in England for more than a decade. It takes the philosophy of existentialism to get into the psycho-philosophical position to be able to perform such crimes. This 'murder-isn't-inherently-wrong' theme will come up again in the fourth quote below this one.

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
We speak not strictly and philosophically when we talk of the combat of passion and of reason. Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.

Comment:
Okay, that settles it. Hume was (at least in his first treatise) an existentialist and a noncognitive emotivist.

:-)

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
It is not contrary to reason to prefer the destruction of the whole world to the scratching of my finger. It is not contrary to reason for me to chuse my total ruin, to prevent the least uneasiness of an Indian or person wholly unknown to me.
Comment:
Any doubters still?

:-)

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality therefore, are not conclusions of our reason.
Comment:
C'mon ... are you with me on this yet?

:-)

Source:
ibid.
 
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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
Take any action allowed to be vicious: Wilful murder, for instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions, motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your reflection into your own breast, and find a sentiment of disapprobation, which arises in you, towards this action. Here is a matter of fact; but it is the object of feeling, not of reason. It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean nothing, but that from the constitution of your nature you have a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Comment:
I think I can rest my case now.

Source:
ibid.


Pragmatist/Utilitarian phase

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Date: 1751 (An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Morals)

Quote:
It appears to be matter of fact, that the circumstance of UTILITY, in all subjects, is a source of praise and approbation: That it is constantly appealed to in all moral decisions concerning the merit and demerit of actions: That it is the SOLE source of that high regard paid to justice, fidelity, honour, allegiance, and chastity: That it is inseparable from all the other social virtues, humanity, generosity, charity, affability, lenity, mercy, and moderation: And, in a word, that it is a foundation of the chief part of morals, which has a reference to mankind and our fellow-creatures.


Comment:
So, now we go from morality being identified by -- indeed, identified with! -- our emotions or feelings, to some kind of calculative endeavor wherein the good is considered to be a property (rather than a relation) which can be divided and sub-divided and then subsequently doled out to different people based on a vague notion of equity, or what have you. I believe that existentialists, when they want social power, become pragmatic utilitarians -- but I question their integrity when they make this philosophical 'switcharoo'. I think Hume might have been genuine, genuinely falling back onto utilitarian pragmatism -- after initially arguing against formalizations of morality -- as the only possible morality for man. So, there may be a slippery-slope between philosophies, and there is the possibility of an intentional philosophical shift in order to grab political power, while making your actions seem reasonable (to others).

In this respect, pragmatism and utilitarianism can be a mere front for the 'naked' urge or desire to gain power over other people.

Source:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4320/4320-h/4320-h.htm

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
But what philosophical truths can be more advantageous to society, than those here delivered, which represent virtue in all her genuine and most engaging charms, and makes us approach her with ease, familiarity, and affection? The dismal dress falls off, with which many divines, and some philosophers, have covered her; and nothing appears but gentleness, humanity, beneficence, affability; nay, even at proper intervals, play, frolic, and gaiety. She talks not of useless austerities and rigours, suffering and self-denial. She declares that her sole purpose is to make her votaries and all mankind, during every instant of their existence, if possible, cheerful and happy; nor does she ever willingly part with any pleasure but in hopes of ample compensation in some other period of their lives. The sole trouble which she demands, is that of just calculation, and a steady preference of the greater happiness.

Comment:
Jeremy Bentham (the "Father" of Utilitarianism) was only 3 years old when Hume wrote this essay concerning our moral "trouble" (the moral problem to be solved) as being "that of just calculation, and a steady preference of the greater happiness." But Hume jostles back to his earlier moral position when pressing the issue, as is shown in the final quote below.

Source:
ibid.

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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
All this is metaphysics, you cry. That is enough; there needs nothing more to give a strong presumption of falsehood. Yes, reply I, here are metaphysics surely; but they are all on your side, who advance an abstruse hypothesis, which can never be made intelligible, nor quadrate with any particular instance or illustration. The hypothesis which we embrace is plain. It maintains that morality is determined by sentiment. It defines virtue to be WHATEVER MENTAL ACTION OR QUALITY GIVES TO A SPECTATOR THE PLEASING SENTIMENT OF APPROBATION; and vice the contrary.
Comment:
Aha! So we're going to be making these cold calculations regarding the distribution/re-distribution of all of the goods in the world, but these calculations aren't so cold after all -- and can be reduced back down to how it is that we personally feel about things. What would be needed then, for this impossible blend of utility and emotion, is for folks to line up and get their emotions recorded into a super-computer, have that computer run the calculations regarding the relative sentiments of every being affected (hopefully, we are only talking about just the humans), and by every happenstance thought or perspective that leads to alternative sentiments, and then type out on a ticker tape what it is that we are supposed to do next -- and from every moment, to every next moment.

Well, that sounds easy!

:-)

Source:
ibid.

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Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 1/14, 1:14pm)


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Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 3:15pmSanction this postReply
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Another philosopher to mention is John Stuart Mill, the most popular utilitarian philosopher. Was he a pragmatist, as my theory predicts that he would be? To recap, according to me, there are supposedly 4 ways to think about values (about ethics or "axiology") and 4 ways to think about reality (about metaphysics; which includes the nature of man, himself) and -- perhaps crucially -- both of these 4 ways of thinking are related to one another. They can be presented in a table:

Heading: .... Metaphysics ................... Ethics
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Row 1: ..... Idealist ...................... Deontologist
Row 2: ..... Realist ....................... Natural Law/Virtue Ethicist
Row 3: ......Pragmatist ................. Utilitarian
Row 4: ..... Existentialist .............. Noncognitive Emotivist
I just argued above that Hume is in both columns of the 4th row (Existentialist-Noncognitive Emotivist), lending support for my theory. Now, I will argue that Mill is in the 3rd row, lending further support. It can be assumed that Mill is a utilitarian. Indeed, he is most popular for that. So what I need to show is that Mill was also a pragmatist, which I have tacitly defined (in the essay and the Worldview Sorter above) as a compartmentalizing 'experimenter' who accepts Popper's falsification theory (of the scientific falsification of conjecture as being the only standard for truth), as well as Kuhn's paradigm-shift theory (where "accepted truth" or "consensus" changes its very identity, along with major scientific advancements). Here are quotes showing that Mill was such a man:

Experimenter
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Date:
1859 (On Liberty)

Quote:
That mankind are not infallible; that their truths, for the most part, are only half-truths; that unity of opinion, unless resulting from the fullest and freest comparison of opposite opinions, is not desirable, and diversity not an evil, but a good, until mankind are much more capable than at present of recognising all sides of the truth, are principles applicable to men's modes of action, not less than to their opinions. As it is useful that while mankind are imperfect there should be different opinions, so is it that there should be different experiments of living
Comment:
This quote depicts Mill arguing for a cosmopolitan society where folks are all left free to act however they please (barring the injury of others). On the level of politics, it's a good idea, but at a more fundamental level, it could be construed as an inescapable limitation on knowledge. If all we could do in our search for truth was to personally experiment, if truth was nothing other than personal expediency (as William James said), then it appears that pragmatism has been accepted.

Source:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/34901/34901-h/34901-h.htm


Popperian
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Date:
ibid.

Quote:
There is the greatest difference between presuming an opinion to be true, because, with every opportunity for contesting it, it has not been refuted, and assuming its truth for the purpose of not permitting its refutation. Complete liberty of contradicting and disproving our opinion, is the very condition which justifies us in assuming its truth for purposes of action; and on no other terms can a being with human faculties have any rational assurance of being right.
Comment:
This quotes shows that Mill held Popper's falsification theory even before Popper, himself, was alive! Presumed truth that is presumed true for no other reason than that it hasn't yet been falsified, is pragmatism. It's the view that the only assurance you have of being right, is nothing other than the very possibility of being proved wrong. Mill expands on this notion in the final quote below.

Source:
ibid.


Kuhnian
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Date:
ibid.

Quote:

The beliefs which we have most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded. If the challenge is not accepted, or is accepted and the attempt fails, we are far enough from certainty still; but we have done the best that the existing state of human reason admits of; we have neglected nothing that could give the truth a chance of reaching us: if the lists are kept open, we may hope that if there be a better truth, it will be found when the human mind is capable of receiving it; and in the meantime we may rely on having attained such approach to truth, as is possible in our own day. This is the amount of certainty attainable by a fallible being, and this the sole way of attaining it.
Comment:
There is an implication toward a Kuhnian paradigm-shift when Mills says that a possible, better truth "will be found when the human mind is capable of receiving it" and, again, this was before Kuhn was even born!

Source:
ibid.

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Ed

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A possible objection to my categorization so far is that, by including the nature of man in the classification system, I went beyond metaphysics.

But that would be mistaken reasoning. A possible name for this thinking mistake is "man-world dichotomy" -- and it involves thinking of the universe as one thing, and man as another. It involves thinking that man is "foreign" to the universe, or "alien" to it. Upon rumination, this turns out to be an outrageous conceit. It is the fatal conceit of an environmentalist, for instance, who thinks man isn't part of nature, but rather a "stain" on nature, or something like that. The environmentalist call is for man to reduce his "footprint" -- as if nature, before man's time, was an intrinsic value (a value-in-itself).

Here is a rough-draft categorization of how each philosopher views man and the universe:

Metaphysics view: ............. Universe ...................................................... Man
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Idealist .................. more real than man .......................... not as real as the universe (and therefore, unable to see the "ultimate reality" because of being too many steps below it)
Realist ................... as real as man ................................. as real as the universe (able to see the "ultimate reality" because we are just as real as the universe is)
Pragmatist ............. probably as real as man ................... probably as real as the universe, but -- due to an inherent limitation -- we can never find out, for sure**
Existentialist .......... not as real as man ............................ more real than the universe (able to create an "ultimate reality" for ourselves)

Ed

**because all we can do -- the only tool we have for knowing anything -- is to tabulate the relative frequencies of outcomes of narrow experiments


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Another possible objection is that I have ungenerously mischaracterized (i.e., created a "straw man" out of) what it means to be a pragmatist, specifically as it relates to the process -- or the intentional elevation of the process -- of contemporary, reductionist science. In another thread, I pulled the following quote from the thread's topic essay (which, itself, came from www.wired.com ):
This assumption—that understanding a system’s constituent parts means we also understand the causes within the system—is not limited to the pharmaceutical industry or even to biology. It defines modern science. In general, we believe that the so-called problem of causation can be cured by more information, by our ceaseless accumulation of facts. Scientists refer to this process as reductionism.
The essay was called Trials and Errors: Why science is failing us, but the conclusion that the author comes to:
It's mystery all the way down.
... is existentialist (i.e., a wrong conclusion). The correct conclusion to draw is that contemporary science is a good system for accruing compartmentalized knowledge of the world -- i.e., it is good for everything that a pragmatist desires -- but that you need something more than the refined process of contemporary science (you need to learn how to think well) in order to actually understand things.

In the book, The Philosophic Thought of Ayn Rand, Eric Mack makes an excellent case for how you need to go beyond compartmentalized or isolated experiments (you need to drop pragmatism as your personal philosophy, and adopt metaphysical realism) in order to truly understand anything. He uses a really good analogy involving an investigator's initial study and evaluation of the visceral organ: the heart. On page 129, which is viewable on Google books here, Mack says that in order to understand a heart, you have to understand it in a functional sense, you have to understand hearts in the teleological "what for" sense associated with the philosophy of metaphysical realism.** 

Interestingly, the author of the wired.com article also used an analogy of the cardiovascular system (one involving HDL cholesterol) to leap to a conclusion opposite of Eric Mack's below:
Imagine that, while our aliens are listening to, weighing, and measuring hearts, but before they have reached a functional understanding of hearts, they are also speculating about which of the hearts are good hearts and which are not-so-good hearts. Some take a liking to the hearts that beat with particular regularity and declare these to be good hearts--perhaps rationalizing their inclination with the theory that the role of the heart is to serve as a type of internal timing device. Others judge those hearts best that beat most often. Still others discover that some hearts make pleasing (to alien eyes) wall hangings and judge these hearts to be the good ones. Of course, none of these alternative systems of judgment coincides with our evaluation of goodness or badness in hearts. For none is based on a relevant understanding of hearts.

Only when the aliens arrive at a correct functional understanding of human hearts can they correctly grade them. Then the grading, the evaluation, is straightforward. A heart is good insofar as it fulfills the function of hearts. That is, hearts are good hearts insofar as they satisfy the need that explains the existence of hearts, insofar as they satisfy the requirements in the light of which we first understand what hearts are. Once the function of a type of thing--in this case hearts--is known, objective evaluations of things of that type are possible. For a thing of a specific kind is a good thing of that kind if it (or its activity or employment) fulfills the function of things of that kind.
And an even easier example than hearts is tools. Tools are made by humans for specific purposes. A tool's "constituent parts" all have a causal purpose, and this cause is knowable. Indeed, it is from the very knowledge of the cause that the idea for the tool came about! There is no unanswered "Why?" question associated with modern man-made tools.

Ed

**And I would add that if you remain recalcitrant and refuse to do this then, for you -- in your purposely-limited state of knowledge -- it's true that it is "mystery all the way down" (Rand disparagingly referred to such an intentionally-blinding choice as an instance of willful evasion).

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I think that the attempt to apply a more recent philosophical position to an older thinker is unfair to the thinker. I think it plays too loosely with similarities without distinguishing between essential (explanatory) ones and off-handed analogies

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Michael,

I think that the attempt to apply a more recent philosophical position to an older thinker is unfair to the thinker. I think it plays too loosely with similarities without distinguishing between essential (explanatory) ones and off-handed analogies.

You do have a point. After all, how can I call Hume an existentialist when existentialism didn't even exist while he was alive? Hume, for instance, never had the chance to state his agreement or disagreement with any of the writings of existentialists, because all of the writings of the existentialists came out after he died.

You mentioned a potential way out of this conundrum -- that it might become fair "to the thinker" if it doesn't "play too loosely with similarities without distinguishing between essential (explanatory) ones and off-handed analogies." To utilize this way out of the conundrum (or to discover that it is, indeed, an inescapable conundrum), we have to get ourselves into the position to be able to identify the following terms when we see them in the world:

1) essential (explanatory) similarity
2) off-handed analogy; or nonessential similarity

I'll see if I can't meet that challenge ...

Ed

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Michael,

Here is the first part of my 2-part attempt to overcome the conundrum -- as you have laid it out.

The first part is to be able to show what it is that makes some similarities in philosophy essential or explanatory -- to be distinguished from all of the nonessential similarities that philosophies just happen to share. The second part is to apply this essentiality concept to my retroactive categorizations of ancient philosophers (into contemporary philosophical categories) to see if it can be done in a way that makes it fair to the ancient philosophers.

Part 1 -- What makes a similarity essential?
I'll start with an obvious counter-example. What is an example of a similarity that is nonessential? Let's compare and contrast Nietzsche's existentialist-emotivism against Rand's realist-virtue ethics (i.e., her philosophy of Objectivism). Metaphysically, they both consider the self to be fully real. Morally, they both consider the self  (rather than the collective) to be the unit and focus of value. In that respect, they are both self-focused philosophies.

But the behavior of people following one philosophy versus the other is different, providing evidence that this similarity is not an explanatory (or essential) one. If you follow Nietzsche, you will not hesitate to tread-on your fellow man in the pursuit of some goal -- if you think that you can get away with it covertly. However, following Rand, you find yourself stuck in the process of building character, and you realize that such predatory behavior is counterproductive on 2 levels:

1) you will eventually run out of victims
2) your character will become deformed, which means that you won't be able to become happy (an assumed end-goal of all actions)

Now, I don't know your level of knowledge of Objectivism, so you can either take my word for it, or if not, then I will provide quotes proving that this is indeed Rand's position on the matter. I'm assuming you have some familiarity with Nietzsche. So the "selfishness" in both Rand and Nietzsche is nonessential, as it does not explain the often-contradictory behavior resulting from implementing either of these philosophies into one's life. That's an example of a similarity that is not essential.

What about a similarity that is essential? For instance, both Aristotle and Rand focus on building virtue by habitual action (as if building virtue is an objective value for all humans) -- leading to similar life outcomes if one implements either philosophy into one's life. There we have it. The link between the following 3 things is essential or explanatory when contrasting Aristotle with Rand:

1) human nature
2) values
3) virtues

Spelled out, it says that human nature is such that in order to obtain values, virtues have got to be built into one's character. If this process is followed -- and only if this process is followed -- a happy and successful human life will be obtained. A necessary qualification of this is that you have to be fortunate enough to avoid terribly tragedy -- such as getting hit and killed by a bus at age 9 (which would prevent you from obtaining the happy and successful life that both Rand and Aristotle promise you).

All of this hoopla can actually be summed up in the very words of your initial criticism -- which implied that for a similarity to be essential, it has to be explanatory. The interplay between the 3 things above (human nature, values, virtues) is what it is that is similar between Rand and Aristotle, and it also explains why following one or the other of those philosophies leads to similar life choices. Now we know -- as you implied and as I explained -- that we can identify whether a similarity is essential or not by whether or not it explains the similarities in outcomes.

Ed

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Michael,

Here is part 2 of my attempt to provide a solution to the conundrum.

Part 2 -- How can I use (explanatory) similarity to make it fair to apply new labels to old thinkers?
I'll start with an obvious counter-example. How or when is it unfair to use a new label for an old thing? Folks used to believe that weather was caused by the gods. Lightning, in Greek mythology, was understood as a bolt thrown down to earth by Zeus. There might have been "weathermen" back in ancient Greece and, in their efforts to predict the weather, they would actually be attempting to predict the moods of the gods. If someone predicted that Zeus was about to get angry, and shortly after that there were lightning bolts, then that "weatherman" would have been assumed to have been correct -- he could predict Zeus' mood and, therefore, the weather. But it would be unfair to classify such a man by the new term: meteorologist -- because meteorology is a science relying on a completely different set of assumptions as our ancient weather-predictor.

But how or when can it be fair to apply a new label to an old thing?
Using the example above, in order to apply the term meteorologist to a "weather-predictor" -- then they would have to be shown to have bought-into the basic assumptions of the science of meteorology. It used to be that folks who believed in limited government were called "liberals." When referring to them, we sometimes refer to them as: "classical liberals." But now, folks who believe as they did would be called "conservatives" --i.e.,  conserving what it was (a limited, constitutional republic) that was actually liberal for the others in their time. We can get away with calling these classical folks "conservatives," -- i.e., by referring to them with a new name -- because they bought into the same basic assumptions about government as contemporary conservatives do.

So, if I am going to go ahead and call Hume an existentialist -- then I am 'on the hook' to explain how Hume bought into the basic assumptions of existentialism. The begged question being: What are the basic assumptions of existentialism? Wikipedia expresses them as follows:
Existentialism is ... the belief that philosophical thinking begins with the human subject—not merely the thinking subject, but the acting, feeling, living human individual.[4] In

existentialism, the individual's starting point is characterized by what has been called "the existential attitude", or a sense of disorientation and confusion in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world.[5]

So existentialism starts with confusion or disorientation regarding an apparently meaningless, absurd world -- and ends in introspection into one's personal thoughts, feelings, and actions. Notice how this philosophy will affect your behavior. The burning question at this point then, is: Did Hume buy-into these basic assumptions (that the world is apparently meaningless and so we need to be primarily concerned with our own personal thoughts, feelings, and actions)? Post 7 above was my affirmative answer to this question.

Do you think that that resolves the conundrum, or have I missed something (in either scope, or in detail)?

Ed

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Ed,

sounds like a good start at the topic. I'd like to see more written on the matter. You might be able to make the case that J.S. Mill started a trend that would merge into
pragmatism (little p) of which Pragmatism (Peirce is generally credited as the founder) is a specific species. AFAIK Mill thought his rules really would give him something that was EITHER cause OR effect. The Pragmatists OTOH doubt that principles can be discovered. That strikes me as a major difference between two things THAT are supposed to be species of something more general. But maybe you can find similarities more important than that difference, however marked it might be. You might want to clarify your thoughts on what constitutes a crucial difference overriding perceived similarities




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Thanks, Michael.

I will take your advice and put both Mill and Pierce under a searing microscope, record some of the more important discoveries of such an analysis, add just a sprinkling of mental horsepower (some noncontradictory integration), and see if I cannot create a philosophic account of pragmatism so sufficient that it effectively transcends the limitations that you have just exposed ...

Ed


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Ed here are some more of my thoughts on what you wrote in the first and second halves of your response.

Nietzsche and Rand:

Statements by Nietzsche like the following lead me to disagree with your specific claim about Nietzsche:

"I have found strength where one does not look for it: in simple, mild, and pleasant people, without the least desire to rule—and, conversely, the desire to rule has often appeared to me a sign of inward weakness: they fear their own slave soul and shroud it in a royal cloak (in the end, they still become the slaves of their followers, their fame, etc.) The powerful natures dominate, it is a necessity, they need not lift one finger. Even if, during their lifetime, they bury themselves in a garden house!"
Nachlass, Fall 1880 6

But that's disagreeing with the example.

I contend that similarities between Rand and Nietzsche are superficial.

But I do so because of Nietzsche's metaphysics and epistemology. Nietzsche sympathized with the Heraclitean view of the universe, that there was only change and flux and that entities were simply snapshots. Furthermore, Nietzsche distrusted logic in part because of philosophers like Kant.

Nietzsche never quite tells us what ethics ought to be. Only that what people call ethics is a terrible exploitation for the sake of weakness and that we ought to "re-evaluate all values".



Now we know -- as you implied and as I explained -- that we can identify whether a similarity is essential or not by whether or not it explains the similarities in outcomes.

That would be one way, yes.

Another is to subsume two fundamentals from two different thinkers under a wider generalization. By a fundamental, I mean something without which much of the thinker's philosophy would not be possible. Consider AR's comments on existence and identity and Aristotle's notion of "substance" and Laws of Logic.

Yet another way: Various stages in following two different paths are similar


With regards to the second half of your response, What role does historical context of a chain of philosophical ideas have in deciding whether two thinkers ought to be classified under a more general heading?
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Michael,

Re: Nietzsche, you seem to have me painted into a metaphorical corner, as my crude characterization of him seems to rely on him being a black-hearted predator. Allow me to back-track at least half of a step to say that while Nietzschean philosophy does not necessarily advocate predatory behavior, it simultaneously does not rule out such behavior. This is even congruent with your statement that Nietzsche never quite tells us what ethics ought to be.

Think about that for a moment.

Think about what it would mean for a philosopher to never get around to telling you what ethics ought to be, but merely offer some examples of what it shouldn't be. The primary purpose of ethics discussions is to figure out what ethics ought to be. It seems like the fella' was hiding something. Maybe he was hiding something about master-slave moralities, or some such things.

Anyway, as you can tell, I don't trust the man -- and you have added good reason not to. Anyone who thinks that reality is a Heraclitean flux, could turn on you and violently murder you -- or be a friend one day, and an enemy the next (it doesn't always have to end in murders and rapes and politicians, and whatever else I happen to associate with existentialism). In a flux, this kind of behavior could be just fine. It can be explained by a disturbance in the flux. That's the trouble with existentialism, it is too open-ended. It's raw.
By a fundamental, I mean something without which much of the thinker's philosophy would not be possible. Consider AR's comments on existence and identity and Aristotle's notion of "substance" and Laws of Logic.
Good point. In my example of Aristotle and Rand, I was focusing on the process of implementing a philosophy into one's life -- and extrapolating the expected results from following that process. In both Aristotle and Rand, being moral necessarily involves grounding values and virtues in human nature, and inculcating virtues for the purpose of value attainment. You went 'all fundamental' on me and did me one better, citing that you can pull back on the magnification of the microscope to see even broader implications of one's initital intellectual convictions.


Anyway, I've been looking at Mill and at Peirce. Nothing workable yet, but I noticed something that I found to be really very peculiar: both Mill and Peirce made it a point to say similar things -- similar bad things -- about Hegel. Now, perhaps most major philsophers have said bad things about Hegel, and that this is just a coincidence overblown in my own mind. But I think that there is something there, and so I am going to work a little bit longer -- to try to discover it.

Please let me know if you have any insights into that matter ...

Ed

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Michael,
AFAIK Mill thought his rules really would give him something that was EITHER cause OR effect. The Pragmatists OTOH doubt that principles can be discovered. That strikes me as a major difference between two things THAT are supposed to be species of something more general. But maybe you can find similarities more important than that difference, however marked it might be.
Okay, I gather that when you talk about Mill's rules that you are referring to his rules of induction, sometimes called Mill's Methods (1):


1) Method of Agreement (when cause is thought of as that one, single feature shared by all entities under investigation) 
2) Method of Difference (when cause is thought of as that one, single feature not shared by all entities under investigation)
3) Joint Method of Agreement and Difference (when both # 1 and # 2 agree)
4) Method of Concomitant Variations (when variance in a feature leads to variance in an outcome)
5) Method of Residues (when every other, previously-known cause is ruled out, then the remaining feature is taken to be the cause)

I want to tie this in with the enterprise of science. Take method # 4 for instance. It is also known as The Method of Isolation By Varying Concomitants, which is nothing other than a controlled trial -- the meat and potatoes of the entire enterprise of investigative science. When scientists create an experiment, they vary a "concomitant" (the independent variable), and then they look for variation in an outcome (the dependent variable). Take poison. Er, no, I didn't mean that literally. Don't take any poison! What I mean is to imagine a toxicology study on a poison. You give a rat some strychnine, and the rat seems fine and lives a normal life. However, you give a dose above a minimum threshold, and the rat gets a little sick. Give a bigger dose than that, and the rat gets even more sick. Ultimately, the dose is big enough to the kill the rat and you terminate the study.

What did you discover?

The commonsense view is that you discovered that strychnine is a poison, and at what precise dose it becomes lethal -- at least that it is a poison to rats, and at what precise dose it becomes lethal to rats. But scientists don't always talk like that. For instance, instead of announcing such a discovery, a scientist may write the following:

"50 Wistar rats of strain XYZ were divided into 5 groups (A-E) and held in open-air containers in moderate light and temperature and given food and water ad libitum for one week to establish metabolic baselines. Group A served as the controls. On day 8, groups B-E received escalating doses of 1 mcg/kg, 10 mcg/kg, 50 mcg/kg, and 100 mcg/kg of strychnine (chemical number: 02345) via IP injection. Group B lab results were normal for the extent of follow-up (average: 2 years). Group C exhibited hair loss and ..."

So what did the scientists discover? According to Peirce (and to my mind, Mill), they discovered the results of following an explicit protocol (the precise result you get when you follow a repeatable method). Other laboratories, following these exact same methods, would be expected to find the exact same (or at least nearly the same) results. In fact, having others repeat the results would be taken to impart more certainty to them. Agreement between different laboratories, all striving to reduce or eliminate possibilities of error, would be taken as an instance of bona fide knowledge -- even though it is potentially 100% refutable. Here's Peirce on that:
The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate is what we mean by truth and the object represented by this opinion is the real. (2)
The only questions answered would be "How?" questions, leaving all "Why?" questions to the lofty, self-arrogated philosophers who actually think knowledge extends outside of carefully contrived laboratory walls. The only truth found is one of coherence, a bunch of people "believing together." This is the social metaphysics that permeates all of pragmatism. Again, here is Peirce:

Nothing is vital for science; nothing can be. Its accepted propositions, therefore, are but opinions at most; and the whole list is provisional. (2)
So, what we get from Peirce is the empirical proposition that all truth comes out of the laboratories of investigative science, and the Kuhnian proposition that no truth is a necessary truth (because truth is nothing other than a collection of opinion, a Gallup poll, taken from the people currently looking into the situation). Instead of being a correspondence theory of truth, it is a methodological/coherence theory of truth. Want to know the truth of something? Then follow the methods currently being utilized by investigators in order to discover that truth (or just simply ask them). That's pragmatism, in a nutshell. It's (a) empiricist, (b) methodological (to make it impartial), and -- at the same time -- (c) reliant on prevailing opinion.


a) empiricist
b) impartial (via being methodological)
c) reliant on (at least some) social metaphysics

Now, was Mill a pragmatist in this nutshell sense? Here is John Lachs (3), writing about Mill:
Their ideas about historical development sensitised him to the importance, both for understanding societies and for changing them, of tradition and social context. ...

Mill regarded his utilitarianism, to which he was wholeheartedly devoted, as the answer to these social and personal difficulties. He thought it provided a rational method for making decisions in matters of human concern. And this rationalisation was accomplished, he believed, without losing the wisdom of the ages, the important insights of great moral and religious traditions. ...

Mill's empiricism inclined him to think that only something experienced can be valuable as an end. ...

... he himself indicated that most of our treasured dogmas are probably no better than half-truths. These, he said, even if contradictory, must be affirmed and defended with rigour in every society ...

Mill's lack of interest in the technical refinements of utilitarianism may appear to be at odds with his concerted attempt to prove its truth. Yet even this proof had a primarily practical purpose: demonstration of first principles, he pointed out, can amount to no more than the provision of reasons to incline the mind to belief. ...

That an object is desirable can, therefore, be reasonably inferred from the fact that it is generally desired ...

Anything large numbers of people have prized generation after generation has a high probability of being good. It is extremely unlikely that the bread we have eaten for thousands of years will turn out, on close examination, to be not food but poison. ...

The problem is that, by Mill's own admission, the evidence for the goodness of anything consists in its broad-based pursuit.
If my theory is correct -- that identifying pragmatism is as easy as "a-b-c" (see above) -- then Mill is guilty. The chapter by John Lachs shows Mill (along with Peirce) to be a methodological empiricist, either fully or at least partially reliant on social metaphysics.


Ed

Sources:
1) Harper Collins Dictionary of Philosophy, 186-7
2) A Dictionary of Philosophical Quotations, 339-40
3) Ethics in the History of Western Philosophy, 246-59

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