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Monday, February 27, 2012 - 9:55pmSanction this postReply
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I think i'm going to print this and put it on my wall.

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Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 2:43pmSanction this postReply
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I'd be honored!

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 3:48pmSanction this postReply
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Great article!

a minor quibble re this: "Because if we really do have the right to our lives, for example, then the legal system should protect us against all efforts on the part of either criminals, foreign aggressors or the legal authorities themselves as to how we ought to live."

"the legal system" implies a single legal system with a monopoly on the use of force, which implies that unless the majority of citizens -- or a very well-armed minority of citizens prepared to use their weapons -- hold these libertarian views, then more statist viewpoints will prevail in the voting or war over which monopoly system prevails, and one could not expect "the legal system" to "protect us against all efforts on the part of ... the legal authorities themselves as to how we ought to live." It is improbable that we would maintain for any length of time the unhindered right to our lives.

Whereas, if it was phrased this way, then one would not need very many libertarians amongst the populace to get the legal structures we desire: ""Because if we really do have the right to our lives, for example, then the legal system that each of us may choose amongst the marketplace of such systems should protect us ..."

That is, for this to happen:

"That is what is so fundamental about libertarianism. Individuals are the ones who are sovereign, not the legal authorities and not even the majority of the people.

Sovereign means you rule yourself. Nobody rules you."

you have to have the individual right to pick who are the legal authorities you hire to protect your rights. If the "majority of the people" get to decide on a monopoly legal system, and impose it on everyone who dissents about that collective decision, and collect involuntary taxes to pay for it, then they rule you.


(Edited by Jim Henshaw on 3/13, 3:54pm)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 4:45pmSanction this postReply
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"the legal system" implies a single legal system with a monopoly on the use of force...
There is a crucial difference between the use of force that was initiated and the use of force that constitutes self-defense. Our current legal system, even with its many, many flaws, does not outlaw self-defense by an individual in many cases. And if the legal system is behind the application of defensive force, that's a good thing.

..."the legal system" implies a single legal system with a monopoly on the use of force, which implies that unless the majority of citizens -- or a very well-armed minority of citizens prepared to use their weapons...
If the legal system is based upon individual rights it doesn't matter how it is maintained, so long as it is maintained.

..."one could not expect "the legal system" to "protect us against all efforts on the part of ... the legal authorities themselves as to how we ought to live.
But that is exactly what we should expect and it should be the very purpose that forms our goals as citizens, and the standard to which we hold our politicians.

..."...the legal system that each of us may choose amongst the marketplace of such systems should protect us..."
There can be NO marketplace of competing legal systems. To have a marketplace, the environment must be protected against initiated force, fraud and theft FIRST. If that isn't done, then instead of a marketplace there is a jungle because some individuals will choose to make their own laws and those laws will say that they can initiate force. Individual rights set the standard, laws implement them, then the marketplace exists for trading all other things - that is, all things except any transaction involving the initiation of force, fraud or theft.

Sovereign does NOT include the right to violate rights. That isn't a valid choice under any circumstances. Taking away that invalid choice is not a violation of sovereignty. No one gets to choose a set of laws that violate rights, and if someone acts upon a law that permits the violation of an individual right, that law is bad and it doesn't matter where it came from - a majority, a minority, democracy, a republic, a monarch, a gangster, a defense agency, or just the whim of an anarchist.


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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 5:27pmSanction this postReply
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Very well said Steve, I agree with it completely.(sanctioned)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 11:53pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Jules.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 7:58amSanction this postReply
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Sent a copy of this to my wife, who can't stand Rick Santorum.

This article pretty much explains why.

She asked me why I was voting for Ron Paul, even though he hasn't a prayer. This article explains why.

It's also why I voted for Clark in '80, even though he garnered maybe 1% of the vote.

My wife, like many, is blinded by one over-riding goal: Obama can't be re-elected. So, whatever it takes. But, what hope is false hope? False hope for freedom is no alternative to no hope for freedom.

Thank you for posting this.







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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 10:34amSanction this postReply
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Fred, I'm voting the same way. I voted for Ron Paul in the Arizona primary and I'll vote for the Libertarian candidate in the General election.

In the past people have expressed anger at this, and said that I was only throwing my vote away, and that it was a cheap gesture since I knew that the libertarian vote would not change the outcome. Well, they were half right - that my vote wouldn't change the outcome. But, if I suspected that there was any chance that my vote might be the one to put Obama in, then I would vote ABO (Anyone But Obama).

It can be difficult at time choosing between making a principled vote against evil, versus a principled vote for good - when those two votes don't coalesce around the same candidate.

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