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Friday, July 8, 2005 - 10:28pmSanction this postReply
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I first read the Fountainhead about 8 years ago, and I definitely loved it to bits, letting it rouse out of me a new kind of bliss and way of being. Then I read it about five years later, and to my surprise the whole book - atmospher-wise - was quite different. Which immediately raised a concern in me as to how others were reacting to the book - were their reactions defined by the words in the Fountainhead or by their own brain-wishes?  It begs for talk about perception.

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Saturday, July 9, 2005 - 3:52amSanction this postReply
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Dawn,

I suspect reading it the second time, much of the sense of life takes a background to the philosophy. If you want to capture that sense of life again fresh and in spades read Atlas Shrugged.

Jim


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Saturday, July 9, 2005 - 7:22amSanction this postReply
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To me, all art is a look into a mirror.  We change and change is temporary even if it feels permanent for a moment.  When I have re-read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, I found more in them.  The sense of life was there to be sure.  The characters seemed more complex.  (I had matured, of course.)  Even the writing seemed better.  In fact, when I became a technical writer, I realized that it was Rand's fiction that had inspired me to use words well.

If the second time through you were not "roused" then you were not.  The fourth or fift time through you might be. 


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Saturday, July 9, 2005 - 9:27amSanction this postReply
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I wish I had read TF before AS but it didn't turn out that way. I ripped through Atlas and it couldn't have been more than a week later for TF (which was kind of interesting in terms of the fact that my endurance was definitely up for it).

I don't see how I could ever recreate the experience of initial impact to AR- that was instant paradigm shift, liberation, vision, and more. The same world became better for me (even though it made me more conscious of who prime movers are, and who are not prime movers). Most people here know what I'm talking about, for sure!

Not to say it wasn't the gift that kept on giving, of course it was: for me that was in the early '80's and here I am typing this.

It was kind of funny, because the guy that turned me on to Atlas was pretty contradictory to much of Objectivism. I'm not sure what he was- I kind of think he might be a communist. He loved it all, though. Thing is, he was handing me Kant a couple weeks later. He liked messing with you like that...


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Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 1:21amSanction this postReply
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Hello all. What interesting comments. And I say this because you all assummed my second reading of the Fountainhead was less enjoyable than the first. Which is back to front. The second was far more enjoyable, which I'll hopefully comment on further into this post. All I was pointing out in my last one was the fact that a difference in perception can occur from one reader to the next, using my past and present self as examples. What I want to say now applies to just how serious a fault can occur when seeing another person or persons through the perception of strict Objectivist eyes (and I include SOLO as being strict). As far as I can tell, most objectivists concider themselves and their road ahead as being paved by reason. This is all good and well, except maybe it's not. Perception could be playing more of a part in your decision making than you think. When one embraces the entirety of any philosophy - Objectivism of course included - it tends to create an entire emotional head-space in one that's the equivalent of that philosophy. And the problem I have with most objectivists is that they don't - or certainly don't seem to - realize this. Simply put, there are loads of other perceptions out there, hanging around you like nearly-earings. True, you don't have time to try and bring them closer to your mind (it takes years to fully build your mind backwards and sideways into another person's internal space, another person's perceptions). But, you could at least reflect this fact in your judgements of others, rather than claiming to know so much that you can insult them left right and center. Objectivists claim to know far more about others and existence than they should. I won't go into specific examples I've seen on this forum, but boy, there are some serious problems here. Part of why I won't go in to it is because the parties involved will never understajnd.  


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