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Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:59pmSanction this postReply
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The immense popularity of reality TV in America has not yet seemed to subside.  My understanding is that such programming is booming in other countries as well - even in regions where one wouldn't typically expect.

Is this reality TV trend something that Objectivists should welcome or shun? Or should we simply remain indifferent?  Philosophically and aesthetically speaking, what sort of commentary or evaluation on our society and culture can be made in response to reality TV's widespread success?

My own view is that reality TV is neither moral or immoral in and of itself, yet there's something that troubles me about its popularity.  I generally don't watch these shows, but I have on occasion gotten sucked into a few programs.  I must admit they can get you hooked into an episode (I simply want to watch people fulfill their prophecy as an idiot, it's a sort of non-sexual voyeurism).  

Thoughts, anyone? 


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Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:52pmSanction this postReply
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Personally, I love American Idol and The Apprentice.

I would think that Objectivists, especially, would like The Apprentice--it's a show about *business*, of all things, and it's one of the most popular shows on TV.  The theme song for season two was "Money, Money, Money"; as prizes for winning the weekly tasks, the winning team gets to do things like buy expensive jewelry, eat at expensive restaurants, or hang out in Trump's ultra-luxurious apartment with his supermodel girlfriend--as an example of what their lives may be like if they are as successful as he is.  There's no shame about the profit motive here.  For me, the main enjoyment of the show is seeing these truly impressive contestants in action--the feeling is admiration.  What a great show.


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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 6:11amSanction this postReply
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Much of reality tv isn't about reality at all. It may not be scripted before hand, but with the editing that goes on after, it might as well be.

The romance (Bachelor/Bachelorette) tv shows say a lot about social metaphysics and self hypnosis (majority of contestants, actually convince themselves that they are in love with the "Prize"). I suspect that they are "in love" with the attention, the competition, and the exotic locales.

That said, I enjoy somewhat the achievement oriented shows (The Apprentice). I would rather that the eliminations be more objectively based (on results more that popular vote).

I find myself watching less and less tv these days.

John


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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:23amSanction this postReply
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Mr. O'Connor, you're very courageous to admit that you like American Idol -- I can tell you're an honest man. :-)

To be more specific, I am referring to the love/relationship shows.  I consider The Apprentice and American Idol to be high level game shows.  


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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 4:59amSanction this postReply
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I like The Apprentice.  Its a good pro-capitalist show.  I also like to catch The Osbournes occasionally just because I'm a rock fan.  Sharon and Jack were on Dennis Miller last night.  Jack lost a lot of weight and looked fabulous.  I also caught The Restaurant a couple times and liked it too.  What I could live without is stuff like Fear Factor and Survivor holds no interest for me. 

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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:05pmSanction this postReply
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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 6:29pmSanction this postReply
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Mr. O'Connor, I, too, like American Idol.  In fact, I love it.  It is my one television indulgence.

None of the others are worth watching.

And don't get me started on The Restaurant.  Those of us in the industry were embarrassed all around.  What a contrived piece of crap, not to mention what I've heard about the food from my colleagues.  Reality my ass.

Ok, done venting.  :)


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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:17pmSanction this postReply
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How's this for courageous--I voted for Jasmine Trias.

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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:15pmSanction this postReply
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Why, do you suffer from a hearing problem?


Heh heh.  :D


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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:54pmSanction this postReply
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And here I thought Jasmine Trias got us far as she did because of affirmative action.  All my Filipino relatives voted for her because . . . well . . . she's Filipino.

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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 6:46pmSanction this postReply
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I hate to change the subject, but OH MY GOD, don't you people know about the greatest reality TV to grace my screen?

JUNKYARD WARS!!
 
If you don't know about it, two teams of oddball, genius, ingenuitive engineers and designers have ten hours to complete a challenge of building a machine from junkyard scraps. 

The real meat of the show lied in the creativity of the challenges, the creativity of the team, and the thrill when the machines, literally welded together from junk, worked magnificently and were tested to the limit against the other team's machine.

Each week for as long as eighteen months, until we couldn't afford cable anymore, I watched teams build giant metal trebuchets to fling small cars, build boring machines, construct missiles, tug-of-war dragsters, airplanes, scuba diving gear, hovercrafts, rapid-fire golf ball launchers, and all manner of vehicles to traverse land, sea, and air.  It was an endless source of inspiration and engineering goodness.  Does it still come on TLC?  Does anyone remember this phenomenal show?

Instead, network reality TV is an endless parade of psychlogical manipulation and mindlessness.  Don't give me any fear, survival, too-many-people-in-one-apartment/house, relationship, dating, wife-swapping, father-marrying, challenge, money, travel, or talent reality shows.  We need more stuff like Junkyard wars. please please. 

I didn't like American Idol primely because of its senseless abuse of sexuality in its 'music.'  Nor do I favor bland musicality in regards to composition and imagination, or vacancy in regards to ideas.  So I can't imagine myself watching it; sorry.

We need more Junkyard wars, that is all.
-Michael


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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:47pmSanction this postReply
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"My wife is a scrumptious not quite 5' and I wouldn't want her any other way. I'm 5'6" and quite satisfied with my below average height."

As long as your feet reach the ground...;)


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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 9:14pmSanction this postReply
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I think the question is "what is reality TV?"  Is something like American Idol a gameshow, or is it reality TV.  Or is it both? 

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Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 6:23pmSanction this postReply
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I will answer your burning question, Pete. American Idol is just a rehash of the original TV reality talent game show.... The Gong Show.


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Friday, January 21, 2005 - 9:49amSanction this postReply
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I was filmed twice for Making the Band, but the film was not used in the United States. My step-grandson was a member of O-Town.

He has an album coming out any day now, and the CEOs tell him there are five potential singles on it. He wrote them all himself.


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Friday, January 21, 2005 - 11:45amSanction this postReply
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Rodney, what is his name?  I hope he does well with it.

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Friday, January 21, 2005 - 12:55pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks! He's Ashley Angel. Here is his entry at TV Tome:

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-171391/

He prefers however to go by his full name, Ashley Parker Angel. He'll soon be starting his own website.


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Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:17pmSanction this postReply
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Oh yeah, I remember him!  I remember that his father was opposed to him joining the band, though I don't remember why.  He wasn't overbearing about it, but thought he was not making the best decision.  I would swear there is no way the guy is 6'2" though, like his bio says, but maybe I am mistaken (or he kept growing?).

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Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:51amSanction this postReply
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No, you're right. I've looked it up and changed it. I hope six feet is correct--I'm not a good judge of height and I don't see Ashley often.

(Edited by Rodney Rawlings on 1/22, 8:53am)


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Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 6:31amSanction this postReply
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He'll be kicking some serious plumpy rear end!

I’d call it the KSSPRE factor, except that this is likely to be grossly misinterpreted!

(Edited by Rodney Rawlings on 1/25, 1:13pm)


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